Drivetrain Burger Motorsports (BMS) Tune(s)
5th Gear
Joined: Jul 2011
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From: Los Angeles
I tried searching through this enormous thread...but no luck. My 2012 Cooper S (stock) has had the jb+ for about 2 months...and I've had some little issues. 1) randomly the half-engine light came on and the car went into limp mode. Unplugged it, ran the car stock, and plugged it back in. The car felt faster than it did right before the CEL, like it did after the adaptation period. 2) a few weeks after plugging it back in, and not touching it, the car basically reverted back to stock. It was very strange. Today I was racing so I had to remove the jb....I ran all day without it, and after plugging it back in, the difference was extraordinary. After a few miles on the highway the car accelerated significantly faster, much faster than earlier this week when it was plugged in. So my question is, is it possible for the car to revert back to stock-like performance? Should I just keep unplugging it and plugging it back in every now and then?
Your setting on the JB is too high.
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2nd Gear
Joined: Jan 2013
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I did mine in about 6 hours at my apartment complex. It was pretty straight forward, just time consuming. You do have to tap into the ECU, so if you're not comfortable with that then get it professionally done. But otherwise take your time and double check to make sure you have the correct color wires hooked up (brown and orange look really similar).
Sorry for going off topic.
I think he was asking how hard it is to install the Aquamist kit.
I did mine in about 6 hours at my apartment complex. It was pretty straight forward, just time consuming. You do have to tap into the ECU, so if you're not comfortable with that then get it professionally done. But otherwise take your time and double check to make sure you have the correct color wires hooked up (brown and orange look really similar).
Sorry for going off topic.
I did mine in about 6 hours at my apartment complex. It was pretty straight forward, just time consuming. You do have to tap into the ECU, so if you're not comfortable with that then get it professionally done. But otherwise take your time and double check to make sure you have the correct color wires hooked up (brown and orange look really similar).
Sorry for going off topic.
Former Vendor
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: terry@burgertuning.com
The first and best sign that something is wrong is that you have a check engine light. Read it. And then fix whatever it indicates is wrong. If you need any advice on how to do that you can always email the code in to our technical support.
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2012
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From: Nashville, TN
The check engine light went off by itself about a month ago, after I unplugged and then plugged back in. Since then the performance seems to taper until it's back to stock-like performance (no CEL), until I unplug again.
Former Vendor
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From: terry@burgertuning.com
The DME is highly adaptive and will reduce power on its own (stock or tuned) under certain conditions. If you want to get to the bottom of it I'd grab some sort of an OBDII logging utlity and monitor boost, timing, and AFR during times when its running well and during those times when it's running slower. That data should help you narrow it down. Too bad on the CEL not coming back as that would be the quickest method. If you want to send the JB+ in we can always swap it out here for you just to eliminate the unlikely JB+ hardware issue.
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 152
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From: Nashville, TN
The DME is highly adaptive and will reduce power on its own (stock or tuned) under certain conditions. If you want to get to the bottom of it I'd grab some sort of an OBDII logging utlity and monitor boost, timing, and AFR during times when its running well and during those times when it's running slower. That data should help you narrow it down. Too bad on the CEL not coming back as that would be the quickest method. If you want to send the JB+ in we can always swap it out here for you just to eliminate the unlikely JB+ hardware issue.
My OBDII logger should be here today
4th Gear
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 329
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From: Massachusetts
So just an update.....
been running TORCO for a bit.....i think ive gone through around (7) 32oz bottles so far.
i noticed my car running a tad sluggish recently, and decided to give my plugs a check....these are my plugs at 30K miles
apparently the buildup is common when running torco, and nothing im terribly alarmed about.
just to be clear, ive noticed no severely detrimental effects, just some slight sluggishness in my case....but if you do decide to run TORCO, you are going to have to replace your plugs more often.
as it stands now, my car is running well with my JB+ at 90%....and i have no plans to stop running TORCO in my car.....just wanted to give yall a heads up.
been running TORCO for a bit.....i think ive gone through around (7) 32oz bottles so far.
i noticed my car running a tad sluggish recently, and decided to give my plugs a check....these are my plugs at 30K miles
apparently the buildup is common when running torco, and nothing im terribly alarmed about.
just to be clear, ive noticed no severely detrimental effects, just some slight sluggishness in my case....but if you do decide to run TORCO, you are going to have to replace your plugs more often.
as it stands now, my car is running well with my JB+ at 90%....and i have no plans to stop running TORCO in my car.....just wanted to give yall a heads up.
Last edited by Mcameron; Apr 10, 2014 at 05:12 PM.
2nd Gear
Joined: Jun 2013
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So just an update.....
been running TORCO for a bit.....i think ive gone through around 7 32oz bottles so far.
i noticed my car running a tad sluggish recently, and decided to give my plugs a check....these are my plugs at 30K miles
apparently the buildup is common when running torco, and nothing im terribly alarmed about.
just to be clear, ive noticed no severely detrimental effects, just some slight sluggishness in my case....but if you do decide to run TORCO, you are going to have to replace your plugs more often.
as it stands now, my car is running well with my JB+ at 90%....and i have no plans to stop running TORCO in my car.....just wanted to give yall a heads up.
been running TORCO for a bit.....i think ive gone through around 7 32oz bottles so far.
i noticed my car running a tad sluggish recently, and decided to give my plugs a check....these are my plugs at 30K miles
apparently the buildup is common when running torco, and nothing im terribly alarmed about.
just to be clear, ive noticed no severely detrimental effects, just some slight sluggishness in my case....but if you do decide to run TORCO, you are going to have to replace your plugs more often.
as it stands now, my car is running well with my JB+ at 90%....and i have no plans to stop running TORCO in my car.....just wanted to give yall a heads up.
Yeah after I ran two 32oz cans of Torco I removed my o2 sensor and it was orange. They say it's harmless.
BTW, I have a 32oz unopened can that I no longer need if anyone in Raleigh wants it let me know.
BTW, I have a 32oz unopened can that I no longer need if anyone in Raleigh wants it let me know.
How much is Torco running for in NC?
I bought it directly from the company via their Amazon storefront for like $22 or so shipped. But I'm offering it for free if you're in the area.
Sorry for the high jack, I'm about to go TDY, wish I had time. I'm a give Torco a try when I return. Thanks for the price info though...
4th Gear
Joined: Dec 2011
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Also, for those of us using the JB+, are we really using stock mappings? What I mean is, since the JB+ is essentially lying to the DME (that's how I understand it), the DME is then in turn using the incorrect parts of the maps. I know this is oversimplified and maybe I'm completely wrong in my thinking.
Has anyone experienced any weird boost cuts? These past two weeks I've been driving my car I've experienced boost cut happening at weird times. I'll be on the HWY driving about 70mph and try to hit the pedal about half way and the car would start to fly for a second till I lose boost completely for 2 seconds. It's weird I've never had this happen in my turbo cars. I'm just confused because I have no codes and the car will run fine. I've even filled up my tank with 93 only. Mind you I am at the 1 position on the JB, but it hasn't happened in the previous 10k+ miles...Also I checked for any boost leaks but found nothing. Any ideas?
