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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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i cant believe I read this whole thread haha, I just picked one up hope to get it on soon
 
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
You might want to check your engine mount bushings.....that could be causing your "surging" problems....too much slack in your driveline. Could also be LCA bushings, or transmission bushings.
Thanks for the tip.
What are the LCA Brushings. I had a visual inspection of the top engine mount but it looked fine
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 09:12 AM
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Anyone got pics they can share of where they mounted the switch?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 09:28 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by the switch?
There's a module that can be mounted just about anywhere behind the dash (I mounted mine to a bare spot on the firewall, using the supplied double-stick tape).
I mounted the display/control panel immediately to the left of the steering column, again with the supplied double-stick tape. The upper dash pad overhangs the faux aluminum dash just enough that I applied the tape to the top of the display, so it's stuck to the upper pad, "hanging" next to the column. I can see the display and make adjustments easily, though I rarely look at it, and haven't changed the setting (I'm on 4, now), in months.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RickB
I'm not sure what you mean by the switch?
There's a module that can be mounted just about anywhere behind the dash (I mounted mine to a bare spot on the firewall, using the supplied double-stick tape).
I mounted the display/control panel immediately to the left of the steering column, again with the supplied double-stick tape. The upper dash pad overhangs the faux aluminum dash just enough that I applied the tape to the top of the display, so it's stuck to the upper pad, "hanging" next to the column. I can see the display and make adjustments easily, though I rarely look at it, and haven't changed the setting (I'm on 4, now), in months.
Switch/Button/Module…all the same…lol
But yes, that is what I am referring to.

I did not read this thread till now and picked up a Sprint Booster and wondering where you are all mounting this module/button .
I know there are many location to put it, but some locations look better than the other.
Do you got pics of yours?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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Check out the pic in post #40; mine is just raised up 3", attached to the top pad, rather than the dash panel. I have only the tach gauge on the column, so was able to tuck the display in tight at 10:00 relative to the column.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RickB
Check out the pic in post #40; mine is just raised up 3", attached to the top pad, rather than the dash panel. I have only the tach gauge on the column, so was able to tuck the display in tight at 10:00 relative to the column.
Sweet! Just saw it.
Module is actually larger than the Spring Booster, but thanks for pointing me there.
I may put it in a similar area

How you liking the increase throttle response?

Thanks for your help by the way
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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I like it a lot. I was afraid that I might become accustomed to the improved feel, or think that some is good, so more is better, but that hasn't really happened. I drove on "3" for a few months, bumped it to "4", then after a few months of that I tried "7", and did not like it at all. I do a lot of driving in traffic, and I had a hard time modulating the "hair trigger" throttle. I'm happy at "4", where the throttle response is proportional. "7" had a runaway feeling to it.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tsmsoccer
Thanks for the tip.
What are the LCA Brushings. I had a visual inspection of the top engine mount but it looked fine
Lower control arms bushings. Try kicking the front of your tires. If you see them move back at all, your LCA bushings are shot.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fastNugly
Switch/Button/Module…all the same…lol
But yes, that is what I am referring to.

I did not read this thread till now and picked up a Sprint Booster and wondering where you are all mounting this module/button .
I know there are many location to put it, but some locations look better than the other.
Do you got pics of yours?
I put mine on the lower portion of the dash above my right knee. You can barely see it here to the left of the DVD screen.


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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
I put mine on the lower portion of the dash above my right knee. You can barely see it here to the left of the DVD screen.

Thanks!
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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Will this work simultaneously with my elm 327 with a splitter? Or does it conflict?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 03:36 PM
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Will this work simultaneously with my elm 327 with a splitter? Or does it conflict?
there are mix results....
some say there is not enough bandwidth for the booster to send the signal and for the your elm 327 to receive data. same goes for other data readers.

some people have no problems some have problems its hit or miss from what i have read.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 04:13 PM
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Well, this mod is a no go for me. I already have a Scangauge II and set of nGauges running off my OBD II.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 04:15 PM
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Well that's really disappointing, I've been fighting back the urge to order a sprint booster because of the price so when I seen this I was excited. Wish it would work with my elm...
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:09 AM
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Do you guys have such weak right feet that you can't press the pedal down fast enough?

I don't really get this mod.....
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
I put mine on the lower portion of the dash above my right knee. You can barely see it here to the left of the DVD screen.


How does your insurance company feel about you running sans airbag? Wheel looks nice.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
Do you guys have such weak right feet that you can't press the pedal down fast enough?

I don't really get this mod.....
Try it, you'll like it! In Sport 9 on the D-1 the throttle response is amazing.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
Do you guys have such weak right feet that you can't press the pedal down fast enough?

I don't really get this mod.....
I understand why you say that, I kind of feel the same way. But, I do understand why it helps.....not really with throttle response, because the motor will still have that soggy bottom end response.....but for down shifts where you want to rev match, you can now press the pedal down a little and get more throttle opening and a quicker engine response ....vs a stock setup where you have to press the pedal down 3/4 to get the same response out of the motor.

Can you do the same thing with your foot? Sure....but I hate having to give so much pedal input just to get a little response out of the motor. Pressing the pedal down with your toe a little and getting 1/2 throttle is going to "feel" more responsive that doing the same thing by putting you foot on the pedal and having to go almost to the floor.

If the minis had a lighter flywheel, more low end torque, and didn't have to spin heavy supercharger rotors ....we wouldn't have this issue.

I think I'm going to try one
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
I understand why you say that, I kind of feel the same way. But, I do understand why it helps.....not really with throttle response, because the motor will still have that soggy bottom end response.....but for down shifts where you want to rev match, you can now press the pedal down a little and get more throttle opening and a quicker engine response ....vs a stock setup where you have to press the pedal down 3/4 to get the same response out of the motor.

Can you do the same thing with your foot? Sure....but I hate having to give so much pedal input just to get a little response out of the motor. Pressing the pedal down with your toe a little and getting 1/2 throttle is going to "feel" more responsive that doing the same thing by putting you foot on the pedal and having to go almost to the floor.

If the minis had a lighter flywheel, more low end torque, and didn't have to spin heavy supercharger rotors ....we wouldn't have this issue.

I think I'm going to try one

I find the pedal placement on the mini too far off to be able to properly heel/toe anyway. In my race car, it's practically perfect. The mini brake pedal is really high and the gas pedal is low. So agreed on the point about less pedal to move to get the proper "blip". But then again, if you're not on a road course you don't need to heel/toe anyway.

Pushing the throttle down further accomplishes the same thing. I remember when sprint booster or whatever it is was trying to market heavily on our GT3 forum. Same gimmick.

I think I can find better things to blow $150 on
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
How does your insurance company feel about you running sans airbag? Wheel looks nice.
I wear a 5 point harness and feel more secure than just a lap belt / bag.

Randy

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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
I find the pedal placement on the mini too far off to be able to properly heel/toe anyway. In my race car, it's practically perfect. The mini brake pedal is really high and the gas pedal is low. So agreed on the point about less pedal to move to get the proper "blip". But then again, if you're not on a road course you don't need to heel/toe anyway.

Pushing the throttle down further accomplishes the same thing. I remember when sprint booster or whatever it is was trying to market heavily on our GT3 forum. Same gimmick.

I think I can find better things to blow $150 on
Not sure if there is a difference in the pedal lay out from one year to the next but my 02 has a perfect layout for proper heel / toe. I upgraded the actual pedals for a bit more grip than the rubber stock units but the spacing is fine unless you have REALLY small feet.
As for not utilizing heel / toe technique on the street I disagree. The main reason of course is that rev matching on down shifts not only is beneficial to drive train longevity but it enhances car control is less than ideal road conditions IE: snow or rain.
As for the product itself if you haven't tried it ...

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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
I wear a 5 point harness and feel more secure than just a lap belt / bag.

Randy


Ugggh. I hate harnesses on the street. You can't get to anything in your pockets and forget about reaching over to the glove box or back seat while at a stop light. FYI, if you're in a wreck and you get hurt, the Insurance company could withhold benefits due to removal of federally mandated safety equipment. Do I think it's dumb? Yes. But it can happen. We went through this on the GT3 boards with the additional of Sparco seats that don't have seat airbags.

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Not sure if there is a difference in the pedal lay out from one year to the next but my 02 has a perfect layout for proper heel / toe. I upgraded the actual pedals for a bit more grip than the rubber stock units but the spacing is fine unless you have REALLY small feet.
As for not utilizing heel / toe technique on the street I disagree. The main reason of course is that rev matching on down shifts not only is beneficial to drive train longevity but it enhances car control is less than ideal road conditions IE: snow or rain.
As for the product itself if you haven't tried it ...



Randy
I have size 9 feet with average width. I find it almost impossible to heel toe this car properly. The pedals are spaced very far apart.

BTW, if you need to heel/toe in snow/wet to keep the car stable on a down shift then you're going way too fast for the conditions my friend

I like to double clutch personally. It's even softer on the drive train than heel toe but is really really hard. I'm racing a vintage car now and it's more or less required to not burn the tranny up.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
Ugggh. I hate harnesses on the street. You can't get to anything in your pockets and forget about reaching over to the glove box or back seat while at a stop light. FYI, if you're in a wreck and you get hurt, the Insurance company could withhold benefits due to removal of federally mandated safety equipment. Do I think it's dumb? Yes. But it can happen. We went through this on the GT3 boards with the additional of Sparco seats that don't have seat airbags.



I have size 9 feet with average width. I find it almost impossible to heel toe this car properly. The pedals are spaced very far apart.

BTW, if you need to heel/toe in snow/wet to keep the car stable on a down shift then you're going way too fast for the conditions my friend

I like to double clutch personally. It's even softer on the drive train than heel toe but is really really hard. I'm racing a vintage car now and it's more or less required to not burn the tranny up.
Trying driving a mini with size 14's......."these pedals are too far apart" is something I have never though to myself. Usually I'm thinking "I hate it when my right foot pushes down on the gas and I hit the brake pedal at the same time
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
Trying driving a mini with size 14's......."these pedals are too far apart" is something I have never though to myself. Usually I'm thinking "I hate it when my right foot pushes down on the gas and I hit the brake pedal at the same time
Wasn't the name "mini" enough of a hint that someone big enough for a size 14 show might not work out so well in this car
 
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