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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 06:16 PM
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I just got my 09 R56 back from the dealer yesterday for timing issues and carbon, and I had no problem re-installing the AP. Took the ECU and the motor a few miles (maybe 50), to really start playing nice with each other and they assimilated, but everything is smooth as can be now.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Here's some pics and info on the dual OCC ---

I tried to link a thread I started on MA, but the link was edited. It's called "How to Screw Up an OCC Install" & has lotsa info.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 07:34 AM
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I'm selling my Accessport for $700. It's up for sale in the marketplace on NAM, here's the link:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...t-tuner&cat=28

It's less than a year old and in like new condition with all the original packaging from Alta. I sold my 2010 MCS, so I no longer have a need for this tuner. The price is negotiable, so let me know what you think.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mindspin311
Bueller?
So what's the point of this thread if I cant get my question answered?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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The point?

Share what you can, learn what you can and, camaraderie.

There may not be anyone with an answer to your question.

Your question may also be equivocal (e.g, best in what regard, you do state, " . . . so it's hard to determine what is good and bad", perhaps everyone is at the same point as you and have nothing to add to the dialog?

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So what's the point of this thread if I cant get my question answered?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIutia
There may not be anyone with an answer to your question.
Alta should be able to answer my question, they developed the damn thing.

I asked a question regarding how to use a particular function on the AP, and I get nothing in return.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mindspin311
Alta should be able to answer my question, they developed the damn thing.

I asked a question regarding how to use a particular function on the AP, and I get nothing in return.
AP is dead. Cobb doesn't support it, and alta will only help you for $50 if you need a tweaked map. You're better off waiting for JB4 to come out in the next few months.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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That is not quite correct

COBB developed, engineered and produced the AP. ALTA marketed and did tuning. ALTA no longer supports the AP.

COBB is not on this board.

Send a PM or standard email directly to Chris at ALTA, he has never failed to provide me with help. They have other priorities more important than watching this board.

Originally Posted by Mindspin311
Alta should be able to answer my question, they developed the damn thing.

I asked a question regarding how to use a particular function on the AP, and I get nothing in return.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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I have been talking with Chris at Alta they will be supporting the Ap until December. However there are only 3484 (now) posts so I don't see how a question could have been missed. Chris has been nothing short of outstanding in dealing with all my questions and concerns.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 12:31 AM
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I might consider selling mine, I bought it thinking I was going to a modified autocross class but im going to keep it stock instead. Not legal in stock obviously. PM if interested.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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Anyone here know if I first uninstall my AP and then get my ECU examined using FASTA data via BMW regional techs, will they be able to detect that I had used the AP or added any mods since my original JCW kit setup?

Even though I am out of warranty, my local MINI dealer offered to have this data checked to see if they properly put back my original JCW tune that was installed in 2007 as part of the JCW kit dealer upgrade. All I know is that my ECU type is now H910B and no longer H520B once they reprogrammed it according to the HPFP replacement procedure. This may not have anything to do with it, but it now seems to have less power than before (without the AP installed) plus I am getting lousy gas mileage with the same Stage 1 FMIC map that I used before (but now for the H910B). It was 30, and now 20mpg! No leaking fuel or gas smells since the HPFP replacement so this doesn't make any sense.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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During install for the AP, the AP records the existing (factory) tune. When you uninstall the AP, it will re-install the saved tune.

Alta should be able to provide you a new tune for the revised ECU, or else you could reach out here to get someone else's tune. I have a Stage 1 (with and without fmic) 92 octane tune that I like, but my car is an auto. I'm sure that you can find someone that is happy with a similar setup to you.

Have fun,
Mike
 
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mbwicz
During install for the AP, the AP records the existing (factory) tune. When you uninstall the AP, it will re-install the saved tune.

Alta should be able to provide you a new tune for the revised ECU, or else you could reach out here to get someone else's tune. I have a Stage 1 (with and without fmic) 92 octane tune that I like, but my car is an auto. I'm sure that you can find someone that is happy with a similar setup to you.

Have fun,
Mike
Thanks, but I probably didn't explain my question well. I have tunes that work ok with my new ECU type. My main goal here is to find out if this FASTA access to my vehicle's computer will show that I was using the AP previously, even if I uninstall it before handing my car over for the exam. The FASTA thing is an all day test of all car programmed functions to see if I still have the JCW setup that came with the car (after they updated the ECU). There's only a few BMW techs left who remember what the MINI 2007 JCW specs were. I want to make sure I still have them in case some day I sell this car with the AP removed. I was afraid if they detected the AP was installed previously, they would give me a hard time.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 05:50 PM
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Your question was clear, but my answer was not. Whatever the factory tune is on your car, when you install the AP, it will save that tune. When you un-install the AP, it will put your factory tune back on.

If that factory tune is the JCW upgrade for your 07 MCS, then that is the one that will be reinstalled when you are done with the AP.

That is my understanding, and I would welcome correction if what I said is not correct.

Have fun,
Mike
 
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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Yes, I'm sure you are right. However, when I got a new HPFP they updated the ECU programming and I am suspecting it no longer retains the JCW tune. This is because they just go by the VIN and the VIN says nothing about JCW because it was added by the dealer not factory originally.

So now after reinstalling AP, it now saves the new ECU programming without the JCW tune. When I sell the car and uninstall the AP, it will not have the JCW tune but whatever standard MCS tune they gave me when I had the HPFP replaced. I hope that's clearer because I'm getting sleepy.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 04:28 AM
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I'm sure this is in the thread somewhere but will be hard to find...

I am selling mine to someone else with the same model car, I have uninstalled the accessport from my car. Do I need to do anything else before it can be installed on a new car? Thanks
 
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 06:21 AM
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Nom Nom, you should be all set to sell the AP as long as it is uninstalled.

Mike
 
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 07:20 AM
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Hey Sacred Disorder...any updates on your eval of the PCV delete?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 07:39 AM
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Hey oldbrokenwind...I may go the dual route after all. I've sent an email to SM for more info. Any updates on your experience? You mentioned that the install was painful. Can you offer tips?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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I've just bought an '09 JCW and the purchase included an AccessPort. The car has been running a stage 1 JCW map for a couple of years without issues, and I know the previous owner drove it in a pretty "spirited" manner. I drive cars a little harder, had several issues out on track as soon as I took the car out. Second full speed lap, I blew the membrane on an Alta recirculating valve. Overnight'd and install the OEM valve and was running again. Had a very strong 30 minute session. Next session out I overheated, and had oil temps over 300 degree (per the AccessPort live data). Also, I noted some fresh oil around the filler cap that did not exist earlier in the morning. Then, I threw a MAF code and the car never started again.

My highly experienced, and motorsport focused, mechanics suspect all of this is related to high boost levels including the oil. MAF codes are questionable, car is in the shop now.

I don't know what boost levels I was hitting on track but did see peaks of 24 psi on the street.

Anyone able to share experiences with peak boost levels on a JCW stage 1 map? 24 psi seems pretty high to me.

Anyone else tracking a JCW with Alta's stage 1 map? Any reliability issues?
 

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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jrettew
Hey oldbrokenwind...I may go the dual route after all. I've sent an email to SM for more info. Any updates on your experience? You mentioned that the install was painful. Can you offer tips?
This is the wrong thread for OCC stuff, so I'll keep it short. SM does not yet provide "fittings" to connect the other end of their hoses. Trying to find ways to connect them was the painful part. If you can't find any good fittings, try interconnecting the OEM hoses with the SM hoses. Mr. Saikou says he's working on the fitting problem, but it might be awhile.

I recently discovered the N18 PCV fittings look like they will fit the N14 rear PCV ports. These fittings accept the SM hose, but I don't know about availability. Check it out?

Suggest using a PM or email to continue this subject ---
 
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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jrettew
Hey Sacred Disorder...any updates on your eval of the PCV delete?
Still on the car. Loaned my intake tube to a buddy so I can't swap back anytime soon. I am heading back stateside soon and the car will under go further modifications when I get back. I will keep you updated.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by segfault
I've just bought an '09 JCW and the purchase included an AccessPort. The car has been running a stage 1 JCW map for a couple of years without issues, and I know the previous owner drove it in a pretty "spirited" manner. I drive cars a little harder, had several issues out on track as soon as I took the car out. Second full speed lap, I blew the membrane on an Alta recirculating valve. Overnight'd and install the OEM valve and was running again. Had a very strong 30 minute session. Next session out I overheated, and had oil temps over 300 degree (per the AccessPort live data). Also, I noted some fresh oil around the filler cap that did not exist earlier in the morning. Then, I threw a MAF code and the car never started again.

My highly experienced, and motorsport focused, mechanics suspect all of this is related to high boost levels including the oil. MAF codes are questionable, car is in the shop now.

I don't know what boost levels I was hitting on track but did see peaks of 24 psi on the street.

Anyone able to share experiences with peak boost levels on a JCW stage 1 map? 24 psi seems pretty high to me.

Anyone else tracking a JCW with Alta's stage 1 map? Any reliability issues?
My JCW stage 3 tune only runs about 22psi. With occasional brief peaks sneaking above that. (read on a Scangauge II )
 
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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Ecu code p2885

Chris,
I periodically get the code P2885 and the car goes into limp mode. I clear the code and can continue driving with full power. There does not seem to be any consistency with its appearance. It happens in 6th gear, it happens in 2nd gear, accelerating or just cruising. I have read the various posts regarding this problem and don't see any clear solution.

Please give me some guidance in resolving this issue.

Thank you,
Magoolll
 
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Magoolll, there is a lot of things that can cause that code. That code means that the car is boosting lower than expected. Most of the times it means there's a leak somewhere. Either in the intake system or with the bypass valve. If all your clamps look OK, check out the bypass valve and do a pressure test on the intake system to 18 psi.
 
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