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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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How many hours should a shop charge for a Cam Install?

RMW cam install on R53. How many shop hours?

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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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Actual time or shop manual time?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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How about both. As I know they can be pretty significant differences

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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Depends on what "Manual" they use. Sometimes a shop will have a lower hourly labor rate but use a Manual that is high on the hours charged per labor type. Then you have a shop that charges a higher labor rate but uses a Manual that is lower on charger per labor type. Of course, then there's the shop who uses the high labor rate and Manual that is high on per labor type.
So, to answer your question, I'm not much help but I'd sure shop around for rates.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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I'm having mine installed at Helix soon and its a rate of 4 hours
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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thats insane. there are some accounts of it being done in as little as 30 min. (these are rushed though...)
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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I called around to a lot of places and others wanted $6-700 to do it.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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I recently had Eric at Helix install the RMW cam and 17% pulley. Couldn't be more happy!
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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My mechanic installed mine in an hour...
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 01:36 AM
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looking at the tutorials i think i could do it in a matter of 1 or 2... not really that difficult of a job.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by madmike007
I recently had Eric at Helix install the RMW cam and 17% pulley. Couldn't be more happy!
Thats good to hear. How long did it actually take them to install it? I wish you had already had the pulley installed so that you could tell me how much of a difference there was after the cam install.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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I installed mine in under 4 hours, it was my first Mini cam.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cpayne
RMW cam install on R53. How many shop hours?

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Looks like you are on the right track: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post3067719
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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An hour and a half, at Mini-Madness, and that was fairly leisurely.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Helix charges 4 hours.

Originally Posted by Barrettrw11
Thats good to hear. How long did it actually take them to install it? I wish you had already had the pulley installed so that you could tell me how much of a difference there was after the cam install.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Helix charges 4 hours.
That's an hour and a half of work, and $250 worth of rip-off, assuming that you bought the cam from them and already gave them their profit on the cam itself.

If you bought the cam somewhere else, all bets are off. If you bought it from elsewhere, don't expect warranty on the install or the cam - that's your risk and RMW's "warrantee", not Helix's.

Tell them you'll pay actual shop time while you watch, or go elsewhere, and sign a release that if it breaks later, it's on you...
 

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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Had my mechanic install the RMW cam and 380cc injectors in less than 2hrs
 
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 04:35 AM
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Where I live nobody works on MINIs so I have to drive 2-3 hours to have it worked on. Like I said earlier I called to several shops and Helix was the cheapest. Others want $500 and up!

I wish I could do this myself, but I do not have all the tools I should have to do it.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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what all do you need to do the cam install???
Ecu tune? will it throw of the timing??
 
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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It is pretty straight forward. I just don't have all the tools a mechanic normally has. Maybe I will look over the install again and see if I might be able to do it if I buy the tools.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Barrettrw11
It is pretty straight forward. I just don't have all the tools a mechanic normally has. Maybe I will look over the install again and see if I might be able to do it if I buy the tools.
post link to this install guide please im interested in doing a cam on my cooper s
 
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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http://www.werkinmini.com/ Click on Cam Install

I am really considering doing this today or tomorrow
 
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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^ hey go for it man...look pretty easy...do you have the cam sprocket oem mini tool?sprokety bolt..and tensioner?

if you do this post it..
 

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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Ha tried to do it today, but didn't have any luck. Got as far as taking the valve cover off then got scared about not having the proper bmw tool to hold the timing chain and everything. I know I could have done it without the tool for sure but I didn't want to make a mistake like turning the engine over or something. So it looks like I am still going to have Helix install it for me. Oh well it was worth a shot
 
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