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Drivetrain HOLY CRAP! I knew it would work, but I didn't expect this well!

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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HOLY CRAP! I knew it would work, but I didn't expect this well!

OK...let's start by saying, "I know some people are not on board with this product". Most of those people have not tried it.

The product is the SPRINT BOOSTER. In a nutshell...it works, better than good!

So after being rear ended (accident two of three in a three month period) and having pressed on the gas and going nowhere (still not sure if I should sue MINI for it), I thought to myself "self, if I had the SPRINT BOOSTER I wouldn't have been hit in the rear". But, as in many cases, money is an issue and getting some "gizmo" to make the car respond faster past the wife is almost useless. "Really honey, it will make the car better"...blank stare.

But then the wife drove the car and complained that she pressed on the gas and got the same "lag". Calls me on the phone to complain and I tell her "there is something we can do about it"...Instantly gives me the ok to pull the trigger on the purchase. Got the product the following day after ordering (Fast!). After driving to work without it, I put it on in the parking lot at work and then drove home.

You would think that I dropped a cam and injectors on this bad boy. WAY more power available down low. Now keep in mind that I do have an automatic...which should kill some of the power, but it didn't. I feel like I just put a pulley on or something. My car has ***** now. Its fun again.

Like some, I was a bit concerned with drivability with the new, more sensitive throttle. So, on the way to work I took it easy (it was raining in LA). I have to say, if you drive normal like you used to you don't even notice the device.

If you have $300ish bucks to drop on your car, consider getting one of these. It's is instantly reversible, doesn't harm anything, has a 30 MONEY BACK GUARANTEE...how could you go wrong.

I have super fatty hands and the installation took 5 minutes, only because I couldn't see that I already unclipped the connector. SUPER SUPER EASY.

Anyway, thought I would share with my peeps! Scary good!
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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That is very cool... who cares what others think? As long as your happy with it, motoring in your own miniverse.. I say rawk on!
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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It has nothing to do with what others think. The engine can very possibly be damaged when using one of these with a car that is not completely stock.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Well the same can be said with damage to the engine with 15% and 17% pulley.. we are all adults here, and well you know when you change the way the engine was built.. we take that chance.. yes?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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The engine can very possibly be damaged when using one of these with a car that is not completely stock.

How so? A window could possibly be damaged when you are using a hammer! What kind of damage do you think could happen?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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I'm curious to know what kind of engine can occur on a modded car but not a stock one. Who here has had this damage happen after installing sprint booster? It's always nice to hear both sides of the story, but I cant comprehend how adding a pulley or intake will mess up your engine but it wouldn't if its stock just because you added a device that speeds up the electrical impulses.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
It has nothing to do with what others think. The engine can very possibly be damaged when using one of these with a car that is not completely stock.
Rick can you elaborate on this? I'm a bit confused as always , but also on how & what could be damaged by using the Sprint Boozer.

Thanks.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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i'll just copy exactly what I posed on m|u, since thats all this guy has been doing over there with this topic.

I also remember someone did some kinda logging and found that it was really messing up something with fuel control and metering. They said it was dangerous with modified cars. I'll have to see if I can find that...


$300 bucks is ridiculous. It probably costs a few bucks to make.

A sucker born every second these days...
http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...ad.php?t=15425
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Thanks Rick, but that really doesn't tell me much. I won't have to worry about it because like you $300 bucks for that seems like a whole lot of money that I'm not about to spend. Although the high cost does appear in line with the prices that particular vendor charges for things.

I've been reading that thread on MU. I've pasted in the quote that sums this product up best for me.

 

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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so if full throttle is still full throttle........

and you MUST get out of way (or accelerate away from) impeding danger?

I guess I've never been in a situation where I wanted to prevent an accident by accelerating away from and only going into it part throttle.

From the graph provided - WOT takes the same amount of time.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
i'll just copy exactly what I posed on m|u, since thats all this guy has been doing over there with this topic.

http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...ad.php?t=15425
I have one and this is not the case.
I have had several dyno runs since installing it and it doesn't change anything apart from throttle response...AFR's are the same so it does NOTHING to the fueling
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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I've driven several cars before and after installing the sprint booster and can absolutely agree that the throttle response is increased with the sprint booster. No it's not gonna bump hp/tq.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by D-MAN
I have one and this is not the case.
I have had several dyno runs since installing it and it doesn't change anything apart from throttle response...AFR's are the same so it does NOTHING to the fueling
now what haters ?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by D-MAN
I have one and this is not the case.
I have had several dyno runs since installing it and it doesn't change anything apart from throttle response...AFR's are the same so it does NOTHING to the fueling
It doesn't directly change throttle response, it manipulates a vital signal to the ECU to make the throttle body react faster.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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seems like if this actually happened, someone would have a nice lawsuit on their hands. These arent made for just MINIs. they make them for just about every electronic throttled car....you'd think you'd hear some disaster stories by now if they actually cause damage. I'd like to try one of these, but like everyone else, $300 is a lot of pocket change, especially since there are several other hp/tq add-ons i still need.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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If your MINI does not have a delayed reaction that not even MINI can fix, then please shut up with the comments about this product being worthless, ESPECIALLY if you've NEVER TRIED IT. Yes, when I first installed this product, it took me a while to get used to it. I almost took it back off. The acceleration was so sensitive, it was almost scary. It didn't take long for me to realize I should have installed this when I first got the car. $300 to have my car run the way it should have from the factory, that's something I can live with. I'm sure some of you have squandered more than that on carbon fiber bits for your car. I'm not knocking you.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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Sprint Booster Plus and Standard Version

I installed one of this on my 05 MCS and really got rid of the lag. I installed it on the wifes 06 MCSa without her knowing it. Then she asked me what I did to her car because it was so sensitive. One thing I noticed is that the plus version is too sensitive for the MCSa if it's in D-mode. Sometimes it redlines before it could shift. But in manual mode it's just right. So my solution was to get her the milder version. Now everybody's happy.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Another more-than-satisfied user here; modified head with larger valves, performance camshaft, free flowing exhaust, etc., lots and lots of happy miles with the Sprint Booster installed.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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I've said it before and I will say it again. This is a great mod and unless you have tried it you really can not comment because you haven't a clue but are rather speculating on what it does.

Like a RedBull, it will give your car wings .

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To the OP... do you put this under "Performance Modification" or "Convenience Modification" ?

I do not see this modification done on many high hp / race MINIs where throttle modulation is very important.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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We don't have to speculate what it does... this photo tells everything in a very easy to understand graph



Does it do something else/other?

The website is very easy to understand also.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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While there is an area labeled "Acceleration Differential" the vehicles do not actually perform any better (WOT 0-60 will not be any faster)

BUT!! the area under the curve (you'll like that term) looks like the largest voltage differential is around 1/4 throttle and from the ET/Seconds X axis you could theoretically get from 0-60 at 1/4 throttle at about a time of .15 to maybe .2 seconds quicker due to the reduced amount of time it takes for the ECU to "see" 1/4 throttle
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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use the money to get a rmw tune.Thats worthwhile
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mistro
use the money to get a rmw tune.Thats worthwhile

Does it have to be RMW or are there any other options? Can they manipulate the drive-by-wire to function like a Sprint Booster? Is a tune cheaper than the sprint booster? Is there a possibility to actually make more HP/TQ with a tune?

 
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