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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Agreed. Options are always nice to have, even if you never use them.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
let us know what you think One guy said Nitromini took his off? Last I talked to Lynn he said he liked it? With a complete refund, minus shipping, which might cost $8. why the heck not try it I am going to wait, as Mike said, after my install and tune to make that decision.
I think you heard wrong
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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I think you heard wrong
I'm confused Wrong that someone said he got rid of it, or, that he still has it? And what the heck is that
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Don't get hung up on the linear....

Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
and it provides a *more* linear response, but still not perfectly linear. It seems like if you can adjust parameters to change the shape of the curve, you should be able to make it user-selectable. For the price, I'd hope you could choose from at least a set of response curves, rather than just the one they choose for you. Oh well. I know that the unit Dr Obnxs comes up with will have selectable response curves.
The reason I would want adjustable/selectable response curves is that my accelerator is pretty "twitchy" already. Not an "on-off" switch but no lag at all. I would want something in between I guess.

Let's all pressure Matt and he'll make it for us.

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That's just voltage out vs something. Remember, there's the TB to take into account and the like. While the curve should be smooth, there's no reason to think that linear is any holy grail.

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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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I bought one, gave myself plenty of time to 'get used to it', then returned it. I am glad I tried it, and even more happy it is gone.

As a first mod it might be fine, but after significant mods and you are running high HP/TQ, you likely will not want this thing.

For me, it almost felt as if my gas pedal had become binary. Even with a slight pedal depression the throttle was damn near all the way on. Certainly for track or autocross you could not live with this device as it effectively removes all feel and control with the throttle.

To me this is almost the complete opposite of getting some nice Pilotti driving shoes that weigh nothing and increase your pedal sensitivity, instead you are effectively replacing your right foot with a brick by installing this product.

Again, as a first mod, or on any car running close to stock HP/TQ, or on an R50, this might be just fine.

I am sure some love it, but it was NOT for me/my car.
 

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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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what kind of power are you making?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mdbsat
I think you heard wrong
Cool, maybe Lynn will let me borrow it for a bit, for a test run.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by howsoonisnow1985
Cool, maybe Lynn will let me borrow it for a bit, for a test run.
Ha! Do it. That is what I did. A friend of mine let me try it BEFORE I got a tune. I was not really impressed as it did nothing. Then post-tune I tried it again and was blown away. Now I am not saying that you need a tune for this as it is probably the opposite. Im my case thought it just seemed to not do anything on MY car before. I do not like driving my car without it now. I should have mine soon and I will post my thoughts again after putting some miles down.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Trying it out from a freind is great advice. Since some people/cars love it, and others no-so-much, if you can try it from a buddy.....do so. While I gave mine many days and miles to test drive, looking back on the experience I knew pretty quickly. So, as noted by mdbsat, if this is for you, then you will know it right off.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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We increase the throttle responce with all of our custom tunes. I have had people complain about it being too twitchy so I modify the map to slow it down. Actually make it faster than stock, but slower than my regular map. That's the nice thing about a custom Tune. It is actually custom to your needs. The sprint booster is a fancy way up making it plug an play so you can do it at home, but may be too twitchy for some.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIGURU@WAY MOTOR WORKS
We increase the throttle responce with all of our custom tunes. I have had people complain about it being too twitchy so I modify the map to slow it down. Actually make it faster than stock, but slower than my regular map. That's the nice thing about a custom Tune. It is actually custom to your needs. The sprint booster is a fancy way up making it plug an play so you can do it at home, but may be too twitchy for some.

Takes a bit of getting used to, but my driving habits are starting to accommodate the SB. Much like I had to do when I first got my MINI.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIGURU@WAY MOTOR WORKS
We increase the throttle responce with all of our custom tunes. I have had people complain about it being too twitchy so I modify the map to slow it down. Actually make it faster than stock, but slower than my regular map. That's the nice thing about a custom Tune. It is actually custom to your needs. The sprint booster is a fancy way up making it plug an play so you can do it at home, but may be too twitchy for some.
So what software are you doing your tunes with?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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For those of you in No. Ca. area, you are welcomed to visit our facility and try out a Sprint Booster. Installation takes about 5 minutes.

Call ahead for an appointment and we will reserve a SB for you.

There are two versions, one for the manual gearbox and one for the automatic. If the Manual SB is too sensitive, the auto SB has a slightly milder curve (for those with high hp). Also, the ECU adaptation will 'take the edge off' during the first week after install - but the SB effect is still very noticeable - you will know this when you remove it.

As for those with ECU software upgrades - the SB effect will add to your smiles...
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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As far as I know this is merely a throttle remap...It is not supposed to reprogram fuel / air mix.....It doesnt even plug into a port for that ?

Our gas pedals are drive by wire ( meaning electronic - no mehcanical cable ) The Sprint Booster basically advances the signal quicker to the electronic throttle modual making it "think and react faster " than distance pedal is actually pressed....

I just installed the Detroit Tuned By Pass Valve in my 03 MCS, and I lost most of the lag which was apparent while running my A/C .....unlike the OEM valve, it keeps boost from escaping and power is right in first gear and between up shifts.

The Detroit Tuned BPV's starts out as an OEM MINI part, which are then modified by DT to work better. They are only $125.00 and easy to install too. I would do this first IMO, and go from there......my 2 cents.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by -=gRay rAvEn=-
As far as I know this is merely a throttle remap...It is not supposed to reprogram fuel / air mix.....It doesnt even plug into a port for that ?

Our gas pedals are drive by wire ( meaning electronic - no mehcanical cable ) The Sprint Booster basically advances the signal quicker to the electronic throttle modual making it "think and react faster " than distance pedal is actually pressed....

I just installed the Detroit Tuned By Pass Valve in my 03 MCS, and I lost most of the lag which was apparent while running my A/C .....unlike the OEM valve, it keeps boost from escaping and power is right in first gear and between up shifts.

The Detroit Tuned BPV's starts out as an OEM MINI part, which are then modified by DT to work better. They are only $125.00 and easy to install too. I would do this first IMO, and go from there......my 2 cents.
Thanks Gray Raven. I did the DT BPV first and although it helped with a little bit of the delay, it didn't fix the problem, although I got 1 more psi of boost with it. The SB is what really got rid of my lag. Now, if I could just get the dog on car to run right.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Wow. I bought a sprintbooster from werkinmini and received it this weekend. I had already tried it so I kinda knew what I was in for but only tried it for a couple of minutes the first time. After a weekend with this new addition to my car all I can say is WOW!!

My car is pretty heavily modded at this point and this was the perfect way to top it all off.

I was skeptical like many about this thing but figured I would give it a shot. I have read many posts on this product. I saw one where someone said if you want to replicate the SB just press the pedal harder. lol. That does NOT replicate the effects of the SB at all. I am just so pleased, this is how the car should have been from the factory! Anyway, anyone local ever wants to give it a shot let me know, you WONT be dissapointed. This takes away any lag in our first gears as well as when shifting. I am pretty confused about all who bash this product, they must not have ever tried it. I guess it is not for everyone BUT I am one satisified customer and you wont see mine on the marketplace

My car is pretty heavily modded at this point and this was the perfect way to top it all off.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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mdbsat, thanks for sharing your experience. You are correct that most people who don't believe in the product have never tried it. This is a product that you really need to experience to appreciate what it can do. On paper, it may raise skepticism - but on the car, it really works!

This is why we offer a 30-day money back guarantee - no questions asked!
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kenatminimania
mdbsat, thanks for sharing your experience. You are correct that most people who don't believe in the product have never tried it. This is a product that you really need to experience to appreciate what it can do. On paper, it may raise skepticism - but on the car, it really works!

This is why we offer a 30-day money back guarantee - no questions asked!
Many people are like this, if they cant see it, they dont belive it. So I guess alot of people dont belive there is a city called Rome
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
Many people are like this, if they cant see it, they dont belive it. So I guess alot of people dont belive there is a city called Rome
Sooo true!! Seriously though, the SB gets an A+ IMO.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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I drive my car hard and I am modded and tuned. I installed it after my tune and I love it. Period

A+ for the SB.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Whats an RMW tune? I have an 03 MCS and my girlfriend has an 03 MC (not an S ) She complains that her car is gut-less when the AC is on and wants to do something about it. Anyone have any ideas? ( other than "turn off the AC and open the windows") It's Phoenix and 120 degree weather feels better with AC
 
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Revolution MINI Works (RMW) re-tunes the car's software. It allows the car to run better on your specific mods, or if you don't have any mods at all, it'll still bump up the power. A Sprint Booster on your girlfriend's MC wouldn't be a bad idea, but I really don't see it helping with the ac problem. The ac systems just bog down the engine. If you can get to RMW, definitely get your MCS tuned.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OldRick
Wrong!

What it does is exactly like changing the mouse settings in Windows for a faster ratio of mouse movement to on-screen movement. There is no more power, neither HP nor TQ, and if you move your foot faster, you will have exactly the same effect.

It won't get you to 60mph any sooner. If you want a twitchier pedal, go for it, but don't delude yourself that it makes the car faster.

Have you tried it? Obviously not, i would say.

At low rpm, when you instantly press the gas pedal to the max (WOT), the car's ECU, won't even bother to fully open the throttle body, sth like when you talk to your dog and he ignores you

I tried the Sprint booster on a Z3 3.0i. The car's owner had done sth smart, he made a wiring with a switch, and he could turn it on and off anytime, but not on the fly. Within a few minutes, i tested the car with it first off and then on. I instantly pressed the gas pedal to the max in 2nd gear with it on and off. The acceleration was MUCH harder with it on. I felt that the car ignores my right foot with it off.

Maybe it is time to try one
 
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Uhh, don't worry about it Nick. Rick is the resident grumpy old man in here that has a negative opinion on everything. You can't mention a product or mod without his negativity coming out.
 
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