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Drivetrain HOLY CRAP! I knew it would work, but I didn't expect this well!

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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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after driving with the sprint booster it's easy to see who's actually tried it and who hasn't. it really is a great mod that really changes the way the car feels. while it doesn't make car any faster it does drastically change the attitude of the car. this is the way the mini should have come from the factory, it seems more athletic, aggressive, eager...
i think that most of us are on this site and in this forum because we all love our cars and really enjoy them. it really sucks when someone finds something that adds even more enjoyment to something we already love and then wants to share it, only to have it $@#! on by someone, with false "knowledge" at that... real cool
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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I hate the drive by wire program on the Mini... even our Scion Xb is peppier off the line, and it only has 100hp.

Greddy has a similar product that is available for the Toyotas and other Japanese imports... along with adjustable settings, including an "off" position.

Wonder if that'll end up making it to the Mini scene? That one actually can be adjusted as to how aggressively you want the throttle to open.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by british RACING green
after driving with the sprint booster it's easy to see who's actually tried it and who hasn't. it really is a great mod that really changes the way the car feels. while it doesn't make car any faster it does drastically change the attitude of the car. this is the way the mini should have come from the factory, it seems more athletic, aggressive, eager...
i think that most of us are on this site and in this forum because we all love our cars and really enjoy them. it really sucks when someone finds something that adds even more enjoyment to something we already love and then wants to share it, only to have it $@#! on by someone, with false "knowledge" at that... real cool
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And by what you are saying.... other people can also say right back to you "it's easy to see who hasn't tried a tune"
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:28 AM
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The big question on my mind is can you not do the same with a remap and get your mapping down at the same time?? anyone tried both and can comment? I know the biggest benefit is the user install ability of this product though.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mini-Morgan
The big question on my mind is can you not do the same with a remap and get your mapping down at the same time?? anyone tried both and can comment? I know the biggest benefit is the user install ability of this product though.
While custom maps can improve throttle response it seems not to be as good as the sprint booster

Check out this post....
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...67-post57.html
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 04:38 AM
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OK so does anyone have a Sprint Boost on a 6 Speed in NorCal I can try out?
I'm sure if you got auto this would be good, but gotta try out in MT 6 speed.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by D-MAN
While custom maps can improve throttle response it seems not to be as good as the sprint booster

Check out this post....
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...67-post57.html
Wonder how both together would work??
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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Can't a tune manipulate the throttle response along with all the other benefits it provides?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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I'm not saying it can't be done, but both my RMW tune and my Mynes tune did nothing for the throttle response--as described in the little graph accompanying this thread. I didn't broach the subject of throttle response at either tune, so it may have been possible.
This device seems to modify one parameter in the system--it shouldn't affect the others, but may affect how the driver perceives the entire system action.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mini-Morgan
Wonder how both together would work??

We'll find out...I just bought one and have an RMW tune. Sure a tune helps you accelerate quicker because you're actually getting increased hp and tq, but throttle response is uneffected. There have been a lot of people say good things about this product on this thread. people i trust, so im going to pull the trigger and try it myself. 30 day return policy is a plus as well.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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I have the Sprint Booster on top of an LDG/DimSport flash and real VE improvements, throttle response is beyond telepathic; it’s clairvoyant. I’m only human, so to have my experience with the product labeled invalid is aggravating, and because I want others to share in my enjoyment, it’s a shame all the nay-saying creates a possible barrier for them.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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WAY more power available down low.
Wrong!

What it does is exactly like changing the mouse settings in Windows for a faster ratio of mouse movement to on-screen movement. There is no more power, neither HP nor TQ, and if you move your foot faster, you will have exactly the same effect.

It won't get you to 60mph any sooner. If you want a twitchier pedal, go for it, but don't delude yourself that it makes the car faster.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Actually, it will get you to 60 faster. from the second your brain sends impulses to mash your foot on the pedal, the timer starts. the car with sprint booster picks up the movement of the foot/pedal sooner, thus jumps off the line quicker than the non-equipped car that still has the electrical lag. The non-sprinted driver has mashed his foot/pedal at the exact same time, but the electrical delay puts his car just a split second behind because it doesnt receive the signal as quickly. Therefore, the sprint booster car will get to 60 sooner.

However, if you start the timer from the moment the cars begin to move forward, then yes, there will be no difference in 0-60. It will definitely help on the drag strip with your reaction time...assuming you are unable to compensate for the expected delay.
 

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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mistro
use the money to get a rmw tune.Thats worthwhile
I put my money into a RMW cam, RMW header, 380cc injectors and an RMW tune. Prior to the car going to RMW, it had an Alta 17% s/c pulley. Otherwise (except for Koni FSDs and 16x7 inch SSR Comps and Michelin Pilot Exaltos in 205/50-16), the car is box stock. It is a 2005 MCSa. Dyno results before: 178.5 whp & 172.9 wft/lbs; after: 198.8 whp & 189 wft/lbs. 20.3 whp and 16.1 wft/lbs makes up for any throttle response lag. My greatest challenge now is not getting a speeding ticket.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by caminifan
I put my money into a RMW cam, RMW header, 380cc injectors and an RMW tune. Prior to the car going to RMW, it had an Alta 17% s/c pulley. Otherwise (except for Koni FSDs and 16x7 inch SSR Comps and Michelin Pilot Exaltos in 205/50-16), the car is box stock. It is a 2005 MCSa. Dyno results before: 178.5 whp & 172.9 wft/lbs; after: 198.8 whp & 189 wft/lbs. 20.3 whp and 16.1 wft/lbs makes up for any throttle response lag. My greatest challenge now is not getting a speeding ticket.
all that stuff and you only have 198? ouch. If your list is accurate, seems like you could benefit from a CAI, and a catback...I havent heard of running a header on stock catback.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MUShadd
It's always nice to hear both sides of the story, but I cant comprehend how adding a pulley or intake will mess up your engine but it wouldn't if its stock just because you added a device that speeds up the electrical impulses.
If the makers of this actually figured out a way to do this then they would be very, very rich. I can assure you such is not the case.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by M3NTAL
And by what you are saying.... other people can also say right back to you "it's easy to see who hasn't tried a tune"
Yes, you are right, but MOST people who don't have a tune can't get one readily available to them. I just got the remote tuner from RMW and will be getting one soon thank you very much. With my schedule, I have never been able to make a tuning party, and there's no way I'd be able to get 10 MINI owners around here to want to get a tune. The Sprint Booster was the easiest way to get rid of the delay I experienced on my car. MINI couldn't get rid of it, and the Sprint Booster fixed it. Again, have you tried the Sprint Booster?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OldRick
Wrong!

What it does is exactly like changing the mouse settings in Windows for a faster ratio of mouse movement to on-screen movement. There is no more power, neither HP nor TQ, and if you move your foot faster, you will have exactly the same effect.

It won't get you to 60mph any sooner. If you want a twitchier pedal, go for it, but don't delude yourself that it makes the car faster.
Like I said before, my car had a serious lag in throttle. When I mashed the pedal, the car would sit there for a second, then out of the blue, the front end would go up, and she would take off. Once the Sprint Booster was installed, the car just wanted to go....plain and simple. It is so much more lively. It's the way it should have been. No, I did not buy this for more HP. Just to make the car run better. I don't think anybody in here is "deluding" themselves Rick. It's people like you and a few others that come in here and act like you have the throttle problem that lots of owners suffer from. You all obviously do not know what you are talking about. If member X comes in here and says this thing boosted his HP, then by all means, put him in his place. From what I read, most people did this to get rid of throttle delay.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Any NorCal Sprint Boost Cars

Does anyone have a Sprint Boost in NorCar or Central Coast areas, would like to test drive a MCS with MT 6 Speed. I will let you test drive my GP in return. No Automatics.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MUShadd
all that stuff and you only have 198? ouch. If your list is accurate, seems like you could benefit from a CAI, and a catback...I havent heard of running a header on stock catback.
I wanted a car with low-end torque and a quiet exhaust. I haven't seen where a CAI does much other than at the high-end of the rpm range. The present set-up has almost a billiard-table flatness to the torque curve. There may be an issue of a conservative dyno; my basic starting point was to get an engine with low-end torque that lasts as long as possible while at least meeting the output (210hp & 180 ft/lbs.) of the JCW kit. Jan did more than that. If you use 12% for drivetrain loss, Jan's handiwork translates to something like 222 hp & 211 ft/lbs from like 2,000 rpm. Call me happy - I have a great running around car (other than having to have my head on a swivel to make sure I don't get any tickets).
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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i'll just copy exactly what I posed on m|u, since thats all this guy has been doing over there with this topic.

http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...ad.php?t=15425
Heresay.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mistro
use the money to get a rmw tune.Thats worthwhile
Two completly different things. Get both!
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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If the makers of this actually figured out a way to do this then they would be very, very rich. I can assure you such is not the case.
While it is not increasing the speed of electricity, it is making the signal get there quicker, or maybe just more of it. havent figured that part out yet.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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The bottom line is this. You're going to have your stubborn skeptics. That's fine. I know what the product did for my car, the car I've been driving for the past 4 years. If your car takes off without any lag, or you just don't care if yours does or not, then don't buy the product. It probably isn't for everybody, but please don't come in here trying to tell me that this product is worthless when you don't have a clue as to what it did for my vehicle and obviously other owner's vehicles who happen to have throttle problems that can't seem to be cured. Take all that junk back over to MU please.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Amen to that.

Originally Posted by Fatherdeth
The bottom line is this. You're going to have your stubborn skeptics. That's fine. I know what the product did for my car, the car I've been driving for the past 4 years. If your car takes off without any lag, or you just don't care if yours does or not, then don't buy the product. It probably isn't for everybody, but please don't come in here trying to tell me that this product is worthless when you don't have a clue as to what it did for my vehicle and obviously other owner's vehicles who happen to have throttle problems that can't seem to be cured. Take all that junk back over to MU please.
And also, 99.99% of us took the risk of plunking down 300 bucks for something that we think makes sense that boosting the signal to the throttle might eliminate the lag and we're willing to find out if it's gonna work...just like other mods. There's no.."let me try it first, before I buy my own!" Maybe others prefer to spend $100 on a big *** stripe that will make their mini go fast, that's their business.
 
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