Just post it up chase....i have had a head/cam installed as welll..so the data i will post soon will show the head/cam combo..

 

There's one member installing this NS1 tomorrow and will be getting a retune in SF this weekend at the MINI Ride and Drive event!!!

Another one is getting installed next week with the MM-Stage II head... more results are coming

 

WOW!!! really??? Looks like more and more people are seeing that cheap can also mean POWER!!!!

 

I wouldn't call it cheap, maybe cost-effective is a better term

 

yeap..totally agree..it is the most cos-effective performance cam for the R53/R50 available. Brilliant piece of kit

 

You have to enjoy the commentary
it's one for the archives

 

Just cant keep your eyes off this thread can you

 

Naz can you agree you would be happy with any performance cam?

If you were given a standard car and blindfolded then any cam fitted you would be happy with the increase

Where is the evidence this cam is so special?

 

yes i would..be it the shrick, newman or my ns1 cam..here's my take of how it performs from my butt dyno ( i havent done a dyno yet) it increases power from 3krpm - 6.7krpm (since i have stock injectors n tune- i dont dare going any higher) but i vouch that it pulls non-stop as compared to stock....

But here are the main reasons i picked the NS1 cam:

- drivetrain friendly
- works brilliant as it is - no tune needed (but a tune will increase the performance exponentially)
- doesnt lean ure engine
- best bang for the buck performance cam
- different from the norm
- Dave crower + Lynn Gleason Combo!!! Winner!!!

 

I think the point is being missed... I dont think People think the Cam is special.. I feel they think the cam is a Dollar to Performance Gain "Special"!!
When doing mods, IHO , it is usually a "money to spend" thingy.. IF there are products out that will equal, or almost equal ( some will surpass) the Performance of another product at a lessor cost, then this is a good thing. Be that Performance be thru the SOP.. Dyno.. Race track

NOT all want to DYNO ( for whatever their reasons..) They are happy NOT to spend the money to have a NUMBER that they can project to others.. And WHY should they?? As stated above by more than a few, it is the results in the "eye of the Beholder", yes??

On this thread there are guys that have done a mod.. ( Crower NS1 Camshaft) and their results as felt thru the average daily driver.... It is beyond me why there are also a few that keep trying to discredit the power gains ( as felt thru those that RUN the cam) With all the riderick and leading questions !!

ANYONE.. and that is ANYONE, that is, or has mod anything in the past.. will know that the claims and disclaimers will always be there.. the "Compare to this product ..or that product " shows the mentality of some , thinking that EVERYONE has the time.. the money.. the experience, to run one against another!! WAKE UP!! It is so easy to say ( yet not reality) to tell some one " have you compared this against that" WHO HAS THAT KIND OF MONEY?? Think of what you are asking.. an average Driver should, change the Mod from one product to another ( who buys the product or the labor ??) then Dyno one against the other ( who pays for the dyno time ??) Yet the few will keep up the stupidity ( that word could be a bit strong..) of asking the same questions.. duh.. wake up!!

Realize that most of the rebuttals are from those that do HAVE the MONEY/ TIME / and facility.. yet they wont.. dont show, what they have found.. it is so much easier to try to discredit the individual, that had to save bucks, sacrifice..for their mods!!

I am, and will run a few cams thru the dyno for MY OWN benefit.. because I want to see which will be better for what I want. And then I will choose and run it!! If someone wants the results.. I will be happy to post them to you... but quit whipping a dead horse!! And for Pete's sake..STOP whipping up on the average guys that do a mod to their MINI!! WTF!!

Just me..........................................

Thumper

 

That what I meant, but Mike you do it soooo much better!!! Post of the week yet again..

p.s..email me the results Mike...Im really interested

 

Return to post #s 332 & 333, these are the same plots you’ve seen before. You can certainly understand why those with the NS1 are pleased, there are many anecdotal reports from Schrick/Ultrik/MiniMania cams you have chosen not to question, yet the NS1 clearly produces more torque under the curve. The difference at peak has been explained; ambient for the NS1 dyno pull was 15C greater. Dyno the NS1 on a cooler day and I’m sure it would have continued to outperform the Schrick above 6800 rpm.

 

The offer was there from the admin at MINItorque to dyno the NS1 for free and compare it to the Newman

Why the offer was not taken is beyond me

For the drivers of the UK the NS1 is not cheaper than the Newman so it's not a good value option

The point was not missed thumper.

My point was if I had sent naz a schrick and labeled it NS1 he would not know the difference as he is only comparing it with stock and added a head so is bound to feel the butt dyno

 

When I put the schrick/ultrik in a year ago I knew it was inferior but it was cheaper new than the NS1 now

I had always planned to change it and it's a shame the dyno plot you posted is the only dyno data available for the cam as if it does what you say I will have missed out

 

well, Jan posted that he was going to post the results of the NS1 in 'two weeks' and the truth will be disclosed... it's been almost two months now, where are the results?

 

lack of proof is not proof of anything

 

Might have something to do with getting 7 cars ready for nationals
funny I don't see others willing to do the test
I've rolled the cams it's going to be a great test
our cams are always tested and where it counts most
on the track
feel free to run your yap
I have a felling you will

 

I want an NS1. Ill tell you why, I am in my 20s! More companies need to realize there is a lot of young MINI drivers now and we dont have tons of money for every mod so im glad to see a company actually selling a cam for cheap.

 

The offer was to giveaway a cam for free; let’s get the story straight. You were offered a free express shipping opportunity by a fellow countryman and you passed; that would have made it cheaper than the Newman.

There’s no need for this lashing out to somehow justify your decision after the fact, be happy in your choice, move on, and turn it into an opportunity to advance your position, perform a before and after dyno to prove a Newman does whatever it’s purported to do. You will then have a Newman vs Schrick/Ultrik comparison to lord over us if it outperforms the NS1 vs Schrick. You've a good chance because ambient temps for your runs should be more than 15C less, go for it.

 

Maybe they dont want the NS1 to leave the shores of the ConUS??? LOL


No worries... there will soon be a NS1 cam and HEAD at 1320 to fit and tune.. I am sure Chris/Paul/Thomas and the newbie Ron, will have fun on the dyno and Tune. And YES, xr3i_alloys, it seems that even with the GBP @ .65 to 1.00, the Newman there in the UK is the cheaper costing Cam.. ( not is equal in the WORLD ) Now... on to important things... Please have the people return my Camera that I left in the sandwich shoppe by the Arundel Castle !! All my pictures of the Castle and the Royal Pavilion in Brighton are in it!! LOL Cheers!

Just me..............................

Thumper

 

It has been posted. I dont remember where though. let me see if i can find it

 

This was posted on another forum

 

Hahaha...ure right! and if a certain performance part performance similarly/better in some cases then the normal, safer n sometimes more expensive option for cheaper...then of cos people go for the cheaper option....its not rocket science, its plain old common sense

 

what cam where you running before??? GR8 numbers for the NS1 cam again!!! Can it do no wrong?

 

The base run was from the cam and BVH ,380 injectors and the basics, pulley, intake, header, exhaust, intercooler on RMW tune. with the 550cc injectors and Mynes tune that put me at the 243whp mark. I also didnt realize that i had/have an intake leak and as i was leaving the dyno mike pointed out that i have an exhaust leak haha. So if i fixed those things i would run better

BTW I am using the NS2 cam