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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Thats what I have been preaching all this while.. Brilliant post!
Thank you, that one just rolled off my tongue
 
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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hye thumper, do you know what the specs are for the newman camshaft? I have seen 2 different specs for the same cam, both on newman charts. I assume one of those specs is right, the other is the wrong one.

of course, that might not matter to most, because i think it was on the cooper cams, not an S cam, but as I have a cooper, it does matter to me.

Im also not sold on the nitrosticks specs. Longer exhaust durrations just dont make sense to me, or Isky for that matter. and were the rockerarm ratios even correct on that cam sheet? (the 1.75) because i have other numbers, and want to make sure im dealing with the correct one.

thanks
 
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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hye thumper, do you know what the specs are for the newman camshaft? I have seen 2 different specs for the same cam, both on newman charts. I assume one of those specs is right, the other is the wrong one.

of course, that might not matter to most, because i think it was on the cooper cams, not an S cam, but as I have a cooper, it does matter to me.

Im also not sold on the nitrosticks specs. Longer exhaust durrations just dont make sense to me, or Isky for that matter. and were the rockerarm ratios even correct on that cam sheet? (the 1.75) because i have other numbers, and want to make sure im dealing with the correct one.

thanks
It IS like stated in /on a few pages previously.. the specs on the Newman cam on the site are not correct! The specs you see on the Crower NS1 cam .. the advertised specs are just that..."advertised", the spec on the cam are actually the "at .050" and the lobe lift numbers. The rocker ratios are 1.6 int and 1.4 exh.. All this stuff.. is getting over discussed and restated and the usual "Baffle with BS" that this site has become famous for..yes?
The Camshaft has proven performance!! And those numbers have all been by independent shops.. !! I have some advise on how to pull a bit more power from the NS1 cam for your n/a MINI, however I will not whisper that procedure, as it will only cause MORE confusion!! LOL

For the novice builder... try this: Schrick is a small performance bolt in/ the NS1 is more power bolt in / the Newman- NS2 requires ( They say) a tune and inj to pull all the power from those. ( actually they ALL will pull more power with a tune... however some DONT have tuning available, yes?) I also suggest that the cost is a key!! To install a camshaft is an easy task!! (2-4 hours depending on skill level) try one!! and enjoy the power and performance gains.. yes??

Longer exhaust duration is a plus for a boosted engine... the longer exhaust duration on a N/A engine is also OK!! ISKY cam is one of the best. (THEY ARE the company that started the SAE specs we use in the US today!!). I sure would not dispute them. But what flow numbers and valve size, RPM level exhaust type, did you give them, for them to reach their decision?? I know ISKY doesnt make blanket statements!!

Have fun....

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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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...Im also not sold on the nitrosticks specs. Longer exhaust durrations just dont make sense to me, or Isky for that matter...
I’ve had the stock, Schrick, and NS1 cams profiled, the geometries most use for comparison doesn’t tell the whole story. If that were the case the Schrick should rule at all rpm, but it does not.

I won’t whisper my advice for extracting more from the Cooper, it’s something all should be made aware of, and it applies to both the NA Cooper & FI MCS. One of the main strengths of the NS1 camshaft is the ability to produce great low & mid range torque, a strong attribute of larger valves is carrying the torque peak later and higher, combine the two and add intelligent engineering, you get better than the best of both. It’s one of those win situations where the whole of the torque curve becomes greater than the sum of the two parts. The BVH with cam-intelligent engineering that unleashes NS1 synergism comes from ENDYN. There are a few other less costly modifications that can help the NA Cooper, but they are more rpm & application dependant.
 
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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yeah, after i corrected the ns specs for correct rocker ratios, it made alot more sense to me, hahah

thanks guys
 
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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yeah, after i corrected the ns specs for correct rocker ratios, it made alot more sense to me, hahah

thanks guys
So you figured out that the NS1 is barely bigger than stock?
LoL
 
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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So you figured out that the NS1 is barely bigger than stock?
LoL
who knew thats all it would take to make power no worries for reliability and my car is faster :tu:
 
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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who knew thats all it would take to make power no worries for reliability and my car is faster :tu:
another satisfied customer...I cant wait as mine is in the mail already
 
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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I had my ns1 fitted last week to my cooper s with stock head and 380 injectors and just love my new power.
 
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
So you figured out that the NS1 is barely bigger than stock?
LoL
When are YOU making or designing your own cam? I mean not simply buying cams from Newman and calling them RMW cams and charging a %50 markup? It still cracks me up when someone says I have an rmw cam

I knew you would like the cam Justin
 
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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When are YOU making or designing your own cam? I mean not simply buying cams from Newman and calling them RMW cams and charging a %50 markup? It still cracks me up when someone says I have an rmw cam
 
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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Again...... It has proven that you dont need BIG STUFF to make solid power in the MINI!!

Loving it.....

Thumper
 

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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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every Crower/NS owners are reporting Brilliant results!!! its official now...IT WORKS!!!!
 
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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So what does this mean?
 
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Again...... It has proven that you dont need BIG STUFF to make solid power in the MINI!!

Loving it.....

Thumper
It's true
you only Ned big correction factors on those mustang dyno's
 
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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It's true
you only Ned big correction factors on those mustang dyno's
any data to prove that JB?
 
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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Consider the locale before coming to conclusion:

Originally Posted by Tony Franks
RE:Cam for R50
Thank you for your enquiry,the best cam to enhance the performance is the newman (fast road) cam.
Also insteresting is comparing the Schrick R50 to the Schrick R53 in the context of the NS1.
 

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
It's true you only need big correction factors on those Dynapak dyno's
I fixed it for you Jan
 
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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noty-noty D-Man..but funny nonetheless LOL
 
Old Aug 1, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Wow this guy cant even spell. I'm surprised he didn't at least use the spell check option to make himself look intelligent.
glad to see there is a cheap option!

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Oh my god i feel like they should get shot down and told to do the proper thing too.
Way to go some guy...
Just an FYI it dose happen to everyone i just happened to be the first one their
This reeks of fail.
I can think of several people who have mensioned someone elses product and been reminded of the site guidelines
The last example that i could think of was Longboard.
that turned into quite the can of worms.
Honestly my objection was the guy was banned for causing a complete ruckus as much as possible.
and now that hes gone its calmed down alot
Why would i want to have it come back.
 
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 08:24 AM
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If all goes well .. I will test the Newman( cam of many names) / NS1 / NS2 against the 8* advanced stock cam next week. It will be in Fl. heat on a "Dyno-Jet" with an UN-TUNED 06. I will post the differances in HP and torque between the cams. Also , of course, the power will be more if you tune after the camshaft... however, I still have more mods to do before I get a Tune.

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Thumper do you have any info to post yet? Thanks.

Jeremy
 
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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Thumper do you have any info to post yet? Thanks.

Jeremy
Do to a Cam SNAFU, the cams got to my home the day AFTER I left for the UK. When I return in a few days I will get on it... My car is all tore down, moding the camshaft bolt, so I can do the cam changes straped to the dyno.. ( not me,lol. the car!!) I am just as eager as you!!

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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Wow this guy cant even spell. I'm surprised he didn't at least use the spell check option to make himself look intelligent.
glad to see there is a cheap option!
LOL
Slow on the uptake are we dustin
Sorry that English is not my first or even second language.
Remember Cheap when it comes to an engine is a bad idea.
 

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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by silversmoke06
LOL
Slow on the uptake are we dustin
Sorry that English is not my first or even second language.
Remember Cheap when it comes to an engine is a bad idea.
On a side note I heard recently that you found out that R-56's are pretty quick, the HARD way

Randy
 



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