Welp, this was a fun idea .

Such a tease to think this would work out with rules everyone would agree on.

Crazy as it sounds, if this thing went off and there was a clear winner, I'd be more likely to spend my money there. How's that for marketing!?

...back to my lightly-modded dream world, thinking of my own track days...

mb

 

 

None... and that's why you're known as a keyboard warrior and whenever you type a post the 'warrior' filter cuts in and all we see is blah blah blah RMW blah blah blah my dyno sheet says I'm fast blah blah blah my dyno sheet brings all the fanboys to the yard and Jan's like, its better than yours, damn right its better than yours, I can teach you, but I have to charge...

 

Good grief, another change of the rules.......

I would like to see what the Mynes stuff can do because it does sound like they are doing some good things with the turbo, it's just a shame that it was brought to light in this manner. Why don't you take it to the track, put it up against Jan's best and see what you've got, who knows you might win and if ya don't you'll win by trying anyway. Besides if you are making over 600 HP you should have nothing to worry about, right?

 

Great, put me on your ignore list and you won't have to deal with the pain anymore.

 

U should take Hubie up on that discussion...might learn a thing. Hell, theres always more to learn and understand in this world...

Really, this isnt even about you, me or anyone else posting...its about RMW and Mynes/ABF... so hows abouts lettin them decide the class/rules...

Fanboy or not, have some respect. All is lost without that.

 

I thought the purpose of this thread was to come upon a set of rules that both sides agree on. I see no problem suggesting rule changes in a thread with that purpose in mind. As long as both sides are agreeing to the changes nobody should be bitching. Even both side arent agreeing that just means the suggestion shouldnt be implemented and you move on until an agreement is reached. I believe that is called negotiating and that this is about what it looks like.


Otherwise I sorta feel like I am watching pinks.

 

Updated my reasoning on Post #1. It doesn't seem like the 'democratic' way is working b/c it's either i accept their demands or i'm a wussie... So i'm going to take charge and state the Guidelines on the Original Post. If Jan wants to request to modify, then send me a PM... this is getting out of hand and it's too much bickering that does not relate to the intention of the post.

 

i don't what you're crying about. That's why i set up two classes. One for the "Unlimited" and the other "LIMITED"... it sounds pretty simple to me

 

I may be going out a limb here,.... but this thread is retarted!

 

Why not bring 'em both then???

 

i haven't read through al the pages yet, but how about this for a fancy idea, how about mynes and co build there own 2.0l and make there own aftermarket ecu eh?

 

Irony is my favorite thing in the world.

mb

 

I think thats the plan...

 

They are making a StandALone ECU...a TRUE standalone... where it plugs straight into the stock ECU harness, not a piggyback that uses the stock ECU for anything...

With that said, it takes ALOT of development, which is happening everyday...

There are some specs located here
http://www.mynesperformance.com/mems.html

Theres tons of programming that goes into this...but Both Mynes and Jan are Tuners as well...which will you be more likely to get? a 400-500 dollar tune? or a 3000+ Standalone? Jan can Tune, theres hundreds of mini owners here to attest to that... so why not tune the stock ECU to run whatever you need?

 

Who's crying, not me. You challenged Jan to bring his fastest supercharged Mini and he said yes with one consideration and that it had to be a street legal mini not stripped down and ever sense you've been back pedaling. Hey it's no skin off my **** either way but if you make a challenge stick to it. I do want to see what you've got because my mod list is a long way from finished.

So bring your fastest street legal turbo Mini and Jan will bring his fastest street legal supercharged Mini and the game is on.

Heck you guys will put big s on all our faces and you both will get alot of business from it!

 

Hey Mike, how about letting Jan bring his 2.0 with aftermarket engine management, and if you win, you know you've beat everything that Jan can bring to the table. If you lose, you can always say that it was because of the larger displacement and stand alone that Jan used. Either way, it would open up an opportunity for another challenge down the road, because neither of you is going to want to lose, and the loser will end up wanting a re-match down the line.

Although I consider Jan a friend, and I am very happy with the performance of his products on my car, I hope Mike beats Jan at this track event. I am interested to see what kind of work Mike does and what he has to offer to the MINI community. Also, if Mike beats Jan, it will only make Jan work that much harder to bring more go-fast goodies to market for our MINIs.

Good luck to both of you, I look forward to watching this event in person.

 

i see the point, but from what i thought, i thought that jan was making the stand alone for a few reasons,
1- just because it opens many doors
2- because the stock ecu cannot handle the larger tvs with the modifications to get it to work properly and reliably

on a side note, i did find it funny that mike posted the street class rules from the event as the rules to go by

but when Jan ( i noticed it as well) and Hubie both confirmed that his 2.0l tvs with a standalone ecu would meet the requirements (i agree) that mynes backed out and stated that he is no longer going by the event rules.

personally i dont see the problem with the ecu, if jan wants to use a standalone, thats his choice, as mynes may use one as well if he wishes, or if he believes that he can tune the stock ecu adequately and has no need for a stand alone, then so be it. From what i believe as well is that even if Jan is outsourcing most of the work for makign his custom ecu (i dont know if he is or not, im just saying) the point is that it will in the end be his companies product, and if it makes him a better tuner, then so be it, if not then so be it.

i actualy liked the idea about using the event rules, as you will be racing in that event, but its just me....

although personally i believe the best times can be obtained by starting the lap at a set pace (not from a dead stop) and have the cars spaced out over half the stack so the two drivers are not limited by slower cars/wrecks/whatever and record all lap times and data for oh.. 30 laps or so....

 

I'm kind of like this idea though.

 

I just hope that whatever happens on the track is better than reading through this whole thread!

Matt

 

On the racetrack, isn't the most significant factor the loose nut behind the wheel?
So for all the talk of minimizing variables, unless you swapped drivers and somehow managed to keep all the other variables constant (track condition, temp, etc.), how could one claim a definitive answer? (and even then... )
Everyone wrangles the 'rules' to their advantage, it's part of the game. I mean the whole point of this is supposedly TC vs SC, so 'a stock R53' is pretty much out the window from the beginning, no?

As for '...settling once and for all...',

All that said, it should be entertaining.
Gentlemen, start your flamethrowers!

 

According to Mynes, they backed out/changed the rules because they can't "come to an agreement" when the proposed agreement in the beginning by Mynes was clearly in the Street Class Rules. Why would you back out of your original rules when someone agreed to it?

 

Yes the car is tuned on 750cc injectors STOCK ECU Anymore questions? (Hubie and Jason, ABF/MYNES Performance)

thanks, i'm glad you like my wing (Johnny)

 

he edited the first posts... (if you read through this entire thread you come to realize that)

 

Since you are talking so much, bring your car too!