Did I pay way too much?
Did I pay way too much?
Prologue: I love my MINI dealer and so won't name it here.
MINI was due for the 30,000 mile inspection, so I asked the dealer if I could drop-ship tires from the Tire Rack for them to install. They said yes.
Service treated me well, found a few problems with the car I did not know about, and even gave me a Works MC40 as a loaner car. All very good things.
I picked up the car late on Friday and had no time then to question the bill for mounting and balancing four tires. Here it is:
Labor: $266
Environmental Disposal Fee: $12.40
Valve stems: $8.68
Tire Storage 10% Storage Fee: $35.40 (Note 1)
Tax: $2.82
SUBTOTAL: $325.30
Less Insurance: $86.00 (Note 2)
TOTAL: $239.30
Note 1: I paid the Tire Rack $354 for four Yokohama ES100s. The tires were stored by the dealer for about two days prior to installation.
Note 2: I have no idea what this means. I do not have any insurance that pays for installing tires.
Question to all: How loudly would you complain about this bill? What is a proper charge?
Phil
MINI was due for the 30,000 mile inspection, so I asked the dealer if I could drop-ship tires from the Tire Rack for them to install. They said yes.
Service treated me well, found a few problems with the car I did not know about, and even gave me a Works MC40 as a loaner car. All very good things.
I picked up the car late on Friday and had no time then to question the bill for mounting and balancing four tires. Here it is:
Labor: $266
Environmental Disposal Fee: $12.40
Valve stems: $8.68
Tire Storage 10% Storage Fee: $35.40 (Note 1)
Tax: $2.82
SUBTOTAL: $325.30
Less Insurance: $86.00 (Note 2)
TOTAL: $239.30
Note 1: I paid the Tire Rack $354 for four Yokohama ES100s. The tires were stored by the dealer for about two days prior to installation.
Note 2: I have no idea what this means. I do not have any insurance that pays for installing tires.
Question to all: How loudly would you complain about this bill? What is a proper charge?
Phil
You've been had !
A reasonable fee would have been $25 per tire to mount and spin balance the new tires, the new valve stems, cost, and the disposal fee. The rest is pure (unreasonable) profit for the dealer.
Did you ask what it would cost when you originally made the arrangements for the service & tire change?
Shoot a "cold call" into the dealer and ask what the cost would be to have them mount and balance a set of new tires, and see what they say.
It's worth a call/visit to the Service Manager to resolve this
Did you ask what it would cost when you originally made the arrangements for the service & tire change?
Shoot a "cold call" into the dealer and ask what the cost would be to have them mount and balance a set of new tires, and see what they say.
It's worth a call/visit to the Service Manager to resolve this
That's a bit much just for tire removal and installation, but I'm sure that you were paying standard dealer labor fees. And, you did get a loaner car. I assume that they removed runflat tires? If so, they're a pain in the butt to take off the wheel. The place I brought my car to (Kearney Enterprises, Inc., in Captial Hts, MD), let me watch the whole removal & install process, and it did take a couple of hours to do.
(BTW, he charged me $110 for removal and install!
)
So, in other words, you paid what I would expect a dealer to charge.
-Paul!
Edit: Actually, that storage fee is a bit of BS!
(BTW, he charged me $110 for removal and install!
)So, in other words, you paid what I would expect a dealer to charge.
-Paul!
Edit: Actually, that storage fee is a bit of BS!
Last edited by Paul!; Mar 13, 2005 at 12:16 PM. Reason: Clarification of loaner car
That seems expensive in terms of tires - but it does seem on par with what a dealer would charge, dealer labor is expensive.
I also think the storage fee is BS though, especially if they didn't tell you about it ahead of time.
I also think the storage fee is BS though, especially if they didn't tell you about it ahead of time.
Originally Posted by whovous
Labor: $266
Environmental Disposal Fee: $12.40
Valve stems: $8.68
Tire Storage 10% Storage Fee: $35.40 (Note 1)
Tax: $2.82
SUBTOTAL: $325.30
Less Insurance: $86.00 (Note 2)
TOTAL: $239.30
SUBTOTAL: $325.30
Less Insurance: $86.00 (Note 2)
TOTAL: $239.30
Don't know what the deal is with the insurance... However are you a DCMM member? You could have saved 10% on the labor charges if you are a member...
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The car was in for a regularly scheduled inspection. That is why I got the loaner car. Sure was nice though!
When I asked what the job would cost, he said he was not sure, but that he thought it would be around $130 to put on a set of runflats. I did not follow up, but assumed that since they were installing non-runflats, it would be less.
I am DCMM member, but was not aware the discount extended to labor charges as well. Didn't carry my membership card with me either...
The tires sat at the dealership for about 48 hours. I was not told about a tire storage charge in advance. Heck, I was not told about the charge when I picked the car up. I learned about it when I read the bill later.
When I asked what the job would cost, he said he was not sure, but that he thought it would be around $130 to put on a set of runflats. I did not follow up, but assumed that since they were installing non-runflats, it would be less.
I am DCMM member, but was not aware the discount extended to labor charges as well. Didn't carry my membership card with me either...
The tires sat at the dealership for about 48 hours. I was not told about a tire storage charge in advance. Heck, I was not told about the charge when I picked the car up. I learned about it when I read the bill later.
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Yes, That is the proverbial reaming. In my locale, it is typical to pay only $15 - $20 per wheel for a tire exchange, balance, valve stem, disposal. In any event, you shouldn't have paid any more than $35 - $40 per. I'd contest anything over the $160 amount. That is really sticking it to the customer.
If you take a bottle of wine to a restaurant, you can expect to pay a corkage fee. I suppose some sort of charge for not buying the dealer's tires makes some sort of sense. Call it a "treadage fee." Of course, last time I checked, the dealer did not sell Yoko's and the parts department all but suggested I try Tire Rack.
Originally Posted by whovous
If you take a bottle of wine to a restaurant, you can expect to pay a corkage fee. I suppose some sort of charge for not buying the dealer's tires makes some sort of sense. Call it a "treadage fee." Of course, last time I checked, the dealer did not sell Yoko's and the parts department all but suggested I try Tire Rack.
Lois
I paid $40 per wheel to have the tires changed at MINI Peabody on GBMINI. Somewhat expensive but not as expensive as you paid.
If you go to a non MINI dealership, be sure they have the correct procedures for handling stiff runflat tires without damaging rims.
If you go to a non MINI dealership, be sure they have the correct procedures for handling stiff runflat tires without damaging rims.
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