Week 7 Support Group
After a bit more research, I realized that I misinterpreted the sailing schedule of 'my ship'. The Manon does not arrive in Southampton from Belgium until 2/24 and is scheduled to hit NYC on 3/3.
Oh well.
Oh well.
How Long?
My Clubman is on the Faust due in Charleston SC Feb 28th.
My MA said they will add a few Options in Charleston, then it would come by Truck.
I wonder what the Normal time until it starts it's journey to the Dealer?
Anyone remember reading another post on that time period?
~dkamp
My MA said they will add a few Options in Charleston, then it would come by Truck.
I wonder what the Normal time until it starts it's journey to the Dealer?
Anyone remember reading another post on that time period?
~dkamp
Transportation........always such a long wait
K-Line Links
Try these K-Line Links:
www.klineeurope.com
This is a good link to K-Line Schedules to the East coast.
http://www.kline.com/PCC-RoRo/ScheduleAtlanticShuttle.asp
Schedules for the west coast.
http://206.103.2.35/sailingSchedules/searchParams?sailDirection=tasimp&loadProdInd=prod Ind
www.klineeurope.com
This is a good link to K-Line Schedules to the East coast.
http://www.kline.com/PCC-RoRo/ScheduleAtlanticShuttle.asp
Schedules for the west coast.
http://206.103.2.35/sailingSchedules/searchParams?sailDirection=tasimp&loadProdInd=prod Ind
RETURNED TO SHIPPER SOUTHAMPTON 25/02/2008 08:34
RECEIVED AT TERMINAL SOUTHAMPTON 23/02/2008 01:55
BOOKED SOUTHAMPTON 04/01/2008 11:32
eeek! the mini is now booked on Otello, but i have no shipping date info for her...
Ouch, dleavy! I wonder why yours got returned and rebooked?
It is interesting the spread of shipping and arrival dates. Apparently though, my vehicle was booked for the Patriot since early January. Sucks since it's basically been sitting at the port for over a week
It is interesting the spread of shipping and arrival dates. Apparently though, my vehicle was booked for the Patriot since early January. Sucks since it's basically been sitting at the port for over a week
Patriot has left the port!
I'm curious as to why mine won't be getting off at New York on the 5th and instead continue to sail to Charleston? My dealership is in Chicago which would mean a 200 mile closer drive if transported from NY. I may have to delay my pickup depending on how long transportation takes once it gets in the port.
I'm curious as to why mine won't be getting off at New York on the 5th and instead continue to sail to Charleston? My dealership is in Chicago which would mean a 200 mile closer drive if transported from NY. I may have to delay my pickup depending on how long transportation takes once it gets in the port.
VDC Time?
From Mini OL I'm getting an indication of a 3 day wait at the VDC is average.
So anyone who has been thru this already, is that your Norm also?
What would be the Normal transport time from VDC (Charleston) to Dealer(Indy)?
MapQuest says 11 Hours, Dealer says 3-4 days
Wassup wit dat?
Hmmmm.
So anyone who has been thru this already, is that your Norm also?
What would be the Normal transport time from VDC (Charleston) to Dealer(Indy)?
MapQuest says 11 Hours, Dealer says 3-4 days
Wassup wit dat?
Hmmmm.
Must be the day for Returns...
My mini was on the manon and scheduled to depart southampton yesterday. I checked the status today and:
RETURNED TO SHIPPER SOUTHAMPTON 25/02/2008 08:34
RECEIVED AT TERMINAL SOUTHAMPTON 23/02/2008 01:55
BOOKED SOUTHAMPTON 04/01/2008 11:32
eeek! the mini is now booked on Otello, but i have no shipping date info for her...
RETURNED TO SHIPPER SOUTHAMPTON 25/02/2008 08:34
RECEIVED AT TERMINAL SOUTHAMPTON 23/02/2008 01:55
BOOKED SOUTHAMPTON 04/01/2008 11:32
eeek! the mini is now booked on Otello, but i have no shipping date info for her...
SOUTHAMPTON UNITED KINGDOM 25/02/2008 25/02/2008
But looks like my MINI didn't make it on the ship???
RETURNED TO SHIPPER SOUTHAMPTON 25/02/2008 17:17
RECEIVED AT TERMINAL SOUTHAMPTON 19/02/2008 15:34
BOOKED SOUTHAMPTON 04/01/2008 11:35
??!!
I don't understand...
I can't get any info anywhere...I know my MINI is done. It's not coming up on WW when I enter my VIN for AutoCargo. Is there any trick to this?
My MA got back to me today: "I don't have the Vessel name in which your MINI will be carried over on just yet. Once it is shipped, I will know. It should be assigned a boat in the next couple of days."
It's been over a week since production finished...how long is the wait for a ship usually?
I can't get any info anywhere...I know my MINI is done. It's not coming up on WW when I enter my VIN for AutoCargo. Is there any trick to this?
My MA got back to me today: "I don't have the Vessel name in which your MINI will be carried over on just yet. Once it is shipped, I will know. It should be assigned a boat in the next couple of days."
It's been over a week since production finished...how long is the wait for a ship usually?
Timeline
Mine took 4/5 days after Production completed to being booked on a ship.
SO I would say that is so far normal.
Timeline:
25 Jan 2008 Ordered.
Feb 11 Website said "Awaiting Transport".
Feb 11 Ask-Mini said that Feb 9 it completed production and it was "past port of exit" meaning it has left the Factory.
Feb 12 Ask Mini said it finished Production Feb 8th, Feb 9th to carrier, 12th waiting to board ship.
Feb 15 the WW site finally showed it on the search page.
WW said they Received at terminal Feb 11
WW said they Booked it on the Faust Feb 11
its is scheduled to unload Charleston SC Feb 28
So you can see from the details depending on whom you ask dates do change a little.
SO I would say that is so far normal.
Timeline:
25 Jan 2008 Ordered.
Feb 11 Website said "Awaiting Transport".
Feb 11 Ask-Mini said that Feb 9 it completed production and it was "past port of exit" meaning it has left the Factory.
Feb 12 Ask Mini said it finished Production Feb 8th, Feb 9th to carrier, 12th waiting to board ship.
Feb 15 the WW site finally showed it on the search page.
WW said they Received at terminal Feb 11
WW said they Booked it on the Faust Feb 11
its is scheduled to unload Charleston SC Feb 28
So you can see from the details depending on whom you ask dates do change a little.
I don't understand...
I can't get any info anywhere...I know my MINI is done. It's not coming up on WW when I enter my VIN for AutoCargo. Is there any trick to this?
My MA got back to me today: "I don't have the Vessel name in which your MINI will be carried over on just yet. Once it is shipped, I will know. It should be assigned a boat in the next couple of days."
It's been over a week since production finished...how long is the wait for a ship usually?
I can't get any info anywhere...I know my MINI is done. It's not coming up on WW when I enter my VIN for AutoCargo. Is there any trick to this?
My MA got back to me today: "I don't have the Vessel name in which your MINI will be carried over on just yet. Once it is shipped, I will know. It should be assigned a boat in the next couple of days."
It's been over a week since production finished...how long is the wait for a ship usually?

Or perhaps there's some paperwork issue or a physical issue? What did ASK MINI say?
I don't understand...
I can't get any info anywhere...I know my MINI is done. It's not coming up on WW when I enter my VIN for AutoCargo. Is there any trick to this?
My MA got back to me today: "I don't have the Vessel name in which your MINI will be carried over on just yet. Once it is shipped, I will know. It should be assigned a boat in the next couple of days."
It's been over a week since production finished...how long is the wait for a ship usually?
I can't get any info anywhere...I know my MINI is done. It's not coming up on WW when I enter my VIN for AutoCargo. Is there any trick to this?
My MA got back to me today: "I don't have the Vessel name in which your MINI will be carried over on just yet. Once it is shipped, I will know. It should be assigned a boat in the next couple of days."
It's been over a week since production finished...how long is the wait for a ship usually?

2/7 - Ordered
2/14 - Finished production
2/22 - Assigned to Manon
2/24 - Manon sails
2/26 - Manon underway north of Spain
The 10 day delay between production and vessel loading was longer than expected. Others had better timing.
BRUNSWICK, GA U.S.A. 20/01/2008 21/01/2008
A check of the Port of Charleston Site shows it there a few days ago... so I'm assuming it's on its way back across the pond to pick up my car??
COURAGE
WALLENIUS AND WALLENIUS WILHELMSEN 652
2/21/2008
06:05
2/22/2008
06:15
Dis: VEH
Load: VEH
2/22/2008
06:15
Dis: VEH
Load: VEH
Looks like Courage's last trip didn't go so well......
BMW North America Confirms 470 Cars Damaged in Shipping
New M3s and 1 Series among the wreckage
Jan 15, 2008
Bryan Joslin
A cargo ship carrying new BMWs, Mercedes, and Volkswagens arrived in the Port of New Jersey on Friday with more than 470 damaged cars in one of its cargo holds. The cargo ship Courage, operated by Wallenius Lines, encountered rough seas in the Atlantic before arriving at port. Vehicles in one of the ship’s cargo holds were ripped from their lashings during the storm, hurtling cars into one another. In total, about 470 BMWs were damaged, roughly 120 of which are a total loss.
BMW North America spokesman Tom Plucinsky confirmed the incident, which was first reported on the eve of the start of the North American International Auto Show in Detroit. Plucinsky indicated that while there were BMWs in several holds of the ship, the damage appears to be limited to just the one. Nevertheless, BMW plans to inspect every one of their vehicles that was on the Courage, looking for damage at chassis tie-down locations and conducting a four-wheel alignment check on each one before releasing them to dealers.
The exact breakdown of the damaged vehicles is still being sorted out, but a significant number of the cars in the affected cargo hold were M3s intended for use as dealer demonstrator vehicles ahead of the full launch of the M3. A fair number of new 1 Series coupes, also intended for dealer use, were damaged as well. The remaining cars consist of customer orders and European delivery vehicles.
BMW says customers concerned about ending up with a damaged car can rest assured that any and all damage will fully disclosed before being sold to dealers. Following its long-standing policy, the damaged vehicles will be handled appropriately based on the degree of damage incurred. For instance, any vehicle whose repair costs approach or exceed its inventory value will be crushed in whole at the port.
Vehicles with damage greater than three percent of their value will be repaired and used as employee vehicles for a period of time before being sold at dealer auctions with full disclosure of the damage and repairs. After being sold at auction, the cars will carry the balance of the original factory warranty.
Cars with less than three percent damage will be repaired, after which the dealer, or the customer in the case of a special order vehicle, will be notified of the damage and repair and then given the option of accepting or refusing the car. Any repaired car that is rejected by either a dealer or a customer will be sent to a dealer auction and the vehicle will be replaced with an identical one at the earliest possible time. All repaired vehicles will carry the full factory warranty.
Those customers who were waiting for their European Delivery vehicle to arrive will have the same options and everyone else. Essentially, they can take a similar vehicle from dealer stock, or they can order an identical replacement new from the factory.
The damaged inventory is an unfortunate setback given the timing. New M3s, 128i and 135i coupes are scheduled to go on sale in just a few weeks, and the loss of at least 120 cars will certainly cause problems with their launch. The remaining 350 or so damaged cars will take weeks to repair, further hampering the introduction of these popular models. Even the process of inspecting and aligning the remainder of the shipment will hold up the delivery of several hundred cars at a time when supply is already low.
BMW North America Confirms 470 Cars Damaged in Shipping
New M3s and 1 Series among the wreckage
Jan 15, 2008
Bryan Joslin
A cargo ship carrying new BMWs, Mercedes, and Volkswagens arrived in the Port of New Jersey on Friday with more than 470 damaged cars in one of its cargo holds. The cargo ship Courage, operated by Wallenius Lines, encountered rough seas in the Atlantic before arriving at port. Vehicles in one of the ship’s cargo holds were ripped from their lashings during the storm, hurtling cars into one another. In total, about 470 BMWs were damaged, roughly 120 of which are a total loss.
BMW North America spokesman Tom Plucinsky confirmed the incident, which was first reported on the eve of the start of the North American International Auto Show in Detroit. Plucinsky indicated that while there were BMWs in several holds of the ship, the damage appears to be limited to just the one. Nevertheless, BMW plans to inspect every one of their vehicles that was on the Courage, looking for damage at chassis tie-down locations and conducting a four-wheel alignment check on each one before releasing them to dealers.
The exact breakdown of the damaged vehicles is still being sorted out, but a significant number of the cars in the affected cargo hold were M3s intended for use as dealer demonstrator vehicles ahead of the full launch of the M3. A fair number of new 1 Series coupes, also intended for dealer use, were damaged as well. The remaining cars consist of customer orders and European delivery vehicles.
BMW says customers concerned about ending up with a damaged car can rest assured that any and all damage will fully disclosed before being sold to dealers. Following its long-standing policy, the damaged vehicles will be handled appropriately based on the degree of damage incurred. For instance, any vehicle whose repair costs approach or exceed its inventory value will be crushed in whole at the port.
Vehicles with damage greater than three percent of their value will be repaired and used as employee vehicles for a period of time before being sold at dealer auctions with full disclosure of the damage and repairs. After being sold at auction, the cars will carry the balance of the original factory warranty.
Cars with less than three percent damage will be repaired, after which the dealer, or the customer in the case of a special order vehicle, will be notified of the damage and repair and then given the option of accepting or refusing the car. Any repaired car that is rejected by either a dealer or a customer will be sent to a dealer auction and the vehicle will be replaced with an identical one at the earliest possible time. All repaired vehicles will carry the full factory warranty.
Those customers who were waiting for their European Delivery vehicle to arrive will have the same options and everyone else. Essentially, they can take a similar vehicle from dealer stock, or they can order an identical replacement new from the factory.
The damaged inventory is an unfortunate setback given the timing. New M3s, 128i and 135i coupes are scheduled to go on sale in just a few weeks, and the loss of at least 120 cars will certainly cause problems with their launch. The remaining 350 or so damaged cars will take weeks to repair, further hampering the introduction of these popular models. Even the process of inspecting and aligning the remainder of the shipment will hold up the delivery of several hundred cars at a time when supply is already low.
Well this morning my MINI appears to be booked on The COURAGE... its voyage code however appears to be dated... last entry:
BRUNSWICK, GA U.S.A. 20/01/2008 21/01/2008
A check of the Port of Charleston Site shows it there a few days ago... so I'm assuming it's on its way back across the pond to pick up my car??
COURAGE
WALLENIUS AND WALLENIUS WILHELMSEN 652
BRUNSWICK, GA U.S.A. 20/01/2008 21/01/2008
A check of the Port of Charleston Site shows it there a few days ago... so I'm assuming it's on its way back across the pond to pick up my car??
COURAGE
WALLENIUS AND WALLENIUS WILHELMSEN 652
2/21/2008
06:05
2/22/2008
06:15
Dis: VEH
Load: VEH
2/22/2008
06:15
Dis: VEH
Load: VEH
BRUNSWICK, GAU.S.A.12/01/200813/01/2008
i wonder where she is right now...


