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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Driver School Tire Pressure

I need some help with what tire pressure to use for a BMWCCA school at Laguna Seca on Monday. I am running Bridgestone S-03's, 205-50 16 on the stock 16" wheel. Temperature will be in the mid to low 50's, partly cloudy. Session time will probably last 25 minutes. Thanks in advance for the advice.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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Some of it depends on mods, and the temp and sunny vs. overcast also have an effect... With my mods and given that I usually run in the red group, I normally run 36/34 on cooler days. I'm not saying that will work for your car, but for mine that's a great setup. A little less pressure lets my tires warm up quicker and stick better from the get-go - and they don't get gain too much pressure, either.

If you have a rear swaybar and it's set to full stiff, I'd recommend running 2 psi less in the rear - otherwise, you may find yourself a bit tail happy for the track.

On warmer days, above 70, I run 38/36 because the tires will already warm quicker and it helps avoid getting too much heat in the tires (which will make them go away a bit and get greasy).

Many beginners find the car more controllable with equal pressures front and rear - my car, however, gets a bit squirrely like that. Just take note about how the car feels while you're out there!

I'm running Falken Azenis for DE's and autocross, so YMMV - I think the S-03's will be pretty close, though. Check your pressures after you get off the track and adjust accordingly - if you have a pyrometer or access to one, check the outside, middle, and inside. They should be pretty close. Also, adjust pressure based on what you're feeling - if you feel the tire rolling over, you'll need more pressure. You can always use the chalk test to dial them in, too.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by scobib
Some of it depends on mods, and the temp and sunny vs. overcast also have an effect... With my mods and given that I usually run in the red group, I normally run 36/34 on cooler days. I'm not saying that will work for your car, but for mine that's a great setup. A little less pressure lets my tires warm up quicker and stick better from the get-go - and they don't get gain too much pressure, either.

If you have a rear swaybar and it's set to full stiff, I'd recommend running 2 psi less in the rear - otherwise, you may find yourself a bit tail happy for the track.

On warmer days, above 70, I run 38/36 because the tires will already warm quicker and it helps avoid getting too much heat in the tires (which will make them go away a bit and get greasy).

Many beginners find the car more controllable with equal pressures front and rear - my car, however, gets a bit squirrely like that. Just take note about how the car feels while you're out there!

I'm running Falken Azenis for DE's and autocross, so YMMV - I think the S-03's will be pretty close, though. Check your pressures after you get off the track and adjust accordingly - if you have a pyrometer or access to one, check the outside, middle, and inside. They should be pretty close. Also, adjust pressure based on what you're feeling - if you feel the tire rolling over, you'll need more pressure. You can always use the chalk test to dial them in, too.
Thanks scobib,
I have the Madness swaybar at the middle setting. H Sport springs, 15% pulley, CAI, and UUC exhaust.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Laguna Seca, awesome! The instructors will help you out. Have fun and remember, shiny side up!
 
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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I did a day at Infineon in November. It was low 50's and I went 38/38 whith khumo's. Back end was happy,so I dropped to 38/36 with better results.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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Hi, I'm also attending the Laguna event and wonder if tire pressure for lower profile tires are different?

I'm currently running 215/40/17 with pressure 36 up front and 35 in back.
Do I need to run higher to keep the front tire from rolling over too much, or will the lower profile prevent that on it's own?
I have no other mods.
Cheers,
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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It all depends on the tires you're running... If it has a flexy sidewall then yes, run a bit more pressure. Maybe 38/38 and see how that works since you don't have a swaybar...
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gosharks
Thanks scobib,
I have the Madness swaybar at the middle setting. H Sport springs, 15% pulley, CAI, and UUC exhaust.
I'd say 36/34 would work well for you... But, you'll have to go out there are see how it works, then adjust... Have fun!
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Thanks. My tires are Yoko ES100's.

So you think with the stock setup that equal F/R pressures would work well?
Cheers,
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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Hrm... do those have the reinforced sidewall? I think they do... I'd still say 38/38. With the stock suspension, a little more pressure in the rear will help the car rotate. If you get any oversteer, back the pressure off in the rear by about 2 psi at a time until you've dialed it out.

But, I think 38/38 should work well - it should be enough to keep the tires from rolling over, which can cause the ES100's outer shoulder to chunk when they get hot...
 
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