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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 07:32 AM
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TSW springs - do they settle?

I recently installed TSW v3 springs. The rear had an immediate and noticeable drop; probably 7/8". The front on the other hand went up almost 1/4". Now the stance on the car looks a bit odd.

For those of you that have TSW springs; will the fronts settle and if so by how much and how long did it take? These springs are supposed to lower the front by 5/8" to 3/4" and since my car was raised almost 1/4" does that mean they settle almost by 1 full inch?

Also, since the rears immediately lowered the car, I'm hoping they don't settle and go lower.

Any TSW spring owners please chime in with your experiences.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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no spring should settle by a full inch... something is wrong if they raised your car.

are they sitting correctly on the perches?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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All springs or coilovers will do an initial "seat" but will definitely settle more in a few thousand miles...
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ggcadc
no spring should settle by a full inch... something is wrong if they raised your car.

are they sitting correctly on the perches?
The springs were installed by my local dealer. They've done lots of spring installs so I assume they are installed correctly and sitting on perches properly. They were a bit surprised at the result.

 

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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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I have heard this about TSW springs in other threads. The front does look a little odd.. I was thinking about getting them, but I am not so sure now.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Did you contact way? What did he say?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tlr1000
I recently installed TSW v3 springs. The rear had an immediate and noticeable drop; probably 7/8". The front on the other hand went up almost 1/4". Now the stance on the car looks a bit odd.

For those of you that have TSW springs; will the fronts settle and if so by how much and how long did it take? These springs are supposed to lower the front by 5/8" to 3/4" and since my car was raised almost 1/4" does that mean they settle almost by 1 full inch?

Also, since the rears immediately lowered the car, I'm hoping they don't settle and go lower.

Any TSW spring owners please chime in with your experiences.
F looks high or R is either too low. Mine never settled (or if there was, I could hardly tell). PM me if you want to see my car and compare. I remember that you had PM query to me last Feb / Mar about TSW V3. Distance from fender arch to the floor is 25.0 inches (both front and rear) measured from wheel center vertical.
 

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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Did you contact way? What did he say?
Yeah basically said the springs do take some time to settle...drive it and see... No indication of how much settling or how long it would take. I kind of regret buying these. I saw some other photos of cars with these and they looked really even. Really weird that these springs are so inconsistent.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Drive it. We have sold hundreds of these springs and we have seen a few times that they initially set up in the front, after some miles the level out. There are too many people that are currently using these without them sitting too high.

I would also make sure they are installed correctly?, and if you installed camber plates they sometimes will raise the ride height.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ED955S
F looks high or R is either too low. Mine never settled (or if there was, I could hardly tell). PM me if you want to see my car and compare. I remember that you had PM query to me last Feb / Mar about TSW V3. Distance from fender arch to the floor is 25.0 inches (both front and rear) measured from wheel center vertical.
Using the same measuring technique, my rear is 24.5" and front is 25.75". So it looks like mine is 1/2" lower than yours in the back and 3/4" higher in the front. I guess you're one of the lucky ones to get an even drop. Those are some pretty significant variations...especially for a spring in its 3rd version.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks
Drive it. We have sold hundreds of these springs and we have seen a few times that they initially set up in the front, after some miles the level out. There are too many people that are currently using these without them sitting too high.

I would also make sure they are installed correctly?, and if you installed camber plates they sometimes will raise the ride height.
No camber plates installed. I'll drive it for a while but since they raised the car, they'll have to settle almost a full inch in the front to get to a 5/8" drop. I'm also hoping the rears don't end up going lower in the process since they are pretty low right from installation.

As for proper installation, it was done by the dealer and a number of other forum members have had their springs installed at the same dealer so I assume it was done correctly.

Way, can you suggest the length of time or miles for full settling to take place?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Curious on this... I just ordered a set from Way that will be mounted with Koni FSD struts. I'm hoping to see a drop, not the car raised.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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I have had similar results: TSW V3 springs on Koni Yellows with stock camber mounts. My situation, however, appears to slight better than yours; I estimate my front as .3~.4 inches higher than my rear. I have put nearly 2000 miles on the car since they were installed and I think they settled a LITTLE, maybe a quarter of an inch, but that is all. I have taken the shocks off completely, then re-installed them with the help of some mechanic friends. Nothing helps. Did we get a bad batch? I will try to take some pictures when I get home out of the field.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheAMAZINGNorad
I have had similar results: TSW V3 springs on Koni Yellows with stock camber mounts. My situation, however, appears to slight better than yours; I estimate my front as .3~.4 inches higher than my rear. I have put nearly 2000 miles on the car since they were installed and I think they settled a LITTLE, maybe a quarter of an inch, but that is all. I have taken the shocks off completely, then re-installed them with the help of some mechanic friends. Nothing helps. Did we get a bad batch? I will try to take some pictures when I get home out of the field.
I'm wondering about the manufacturing consistency of these springs. If my fronts settle by 1/4", then that will put me back to stock height which sort of defeats the purpose of lowering springs. I've been told to wait it out but no idea on how long...`1 month, 2, ??

I met up with another forum member today who had the same springs (TSW v3) for over a year (I believe). Incidentally, he had his installed at the same place. His car sits perfectly even and had no noticeable change since day one. It's really odd that some of these TSW springs settle while others do not. I hope I have a set that will settle at least 3/4" in the front and not change at all in the back.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 04:35 PM
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had the tsw v3 springs on with koni FSD for the last ~2000mi. Front is noticeably higher than the back, and Im still hopin (foolishly) that it will settle more. Car handles great, but I really wish that they would lower evenly or at least killed a little of the front wheel gap. Ill try and get some pic's or measurements posted.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iceckid
had the tsw v3 springs on with koni FSD for the last ~2000mi. Front is noticeably higher than the back, and Im still hopin (foolishly) that it will settle more. Car handles great, but I really wish that they would lower evenly or at least killed a little of the front wheel gap. Ill try and get some pic's or measurements posted.
Icekid, did your front end height change with the installation of these springs? Pics and measurements would be great. Like you, I'm hoping too.

Some people say they'll settle but others experience no change whatsover. At this point I'm wondering if these kinds of variations are typical of all aftermarket springs.

My neighbor heard I got performance lowering springs and said, "back looks great, did you want some help doing the fronts?"
 
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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My neighbor heard I got performance lowering springs and said, "back looks great, did you want some help doing the fronts?"
That is rough. I think I'm getting H&Rs now.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dannyhavok
That is rough. I think I'm getting H&Rs now.
Yup, and he was totally serious...wasn't trying to give me a hard time. He felt a little bad after. Hopefully the H&Rs don't require a settling period.

I did a bit more research and some say 100-150 miles should do the trick and possibly up to 500 miles. I'm currently at around 300 miles since the install w/o change. By the time I finish my current tank of gas, I'll be well past the 500 mile mark. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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Good luck, I hope they settle for you! If they don't, do you plan on swapping them out for something else?
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 03:41 AM
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Have you atleast stopped by the installer and had them take a look.. Just incase..
I don't think you'll get a 1" settle out of any spring out there.. Over a period of years maybe as it gets worn out..
Are you going to be able to swap them for something else after you have 500 miles on these??
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by N2MINI
Have you atleast stopped by the installer and had them take a look.. Just incase..
I don't think you'll get a 1" settle out of any spring out there.. Over a period of years maybe as it gets worn out..
Are you going to be able to swap them for something else after you have 500 miles on these??
I haven't dropped by the dealer (installer) to have them check it. When they installed them, they said it was the first set of lowering springs they installed that didn't lower the car (in the front). Chances are they installed it correctly but you are absolutely correct on the 'just incase'. I'll probably go to a third party to have them checked. Sounds weird but I actually hope it's just an install problem as that'll probably be the cheapest fix.

As for swapping 500 miles later, are you referring to returning them to the vendor? I assume that it wouldn't be a problem since I was advised to drive the car and just give it time to settle.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 06:20 AM
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That doesn't look quite right...
Here's my car right after installing TSW Springs.



And after settling. (They settled after about 500 miles, this is after like 2,000 miles.)


Here are some more photos: http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._7152765_n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._5096116_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._8150259_n.jpg
 

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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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Hard to tell with those pics for the front. The 1 pic the tires blends in with it all too much.. Depending on tire size one car could "appear" lower then another when looking at the wheel gap..

tlr1000, I too hope for your sake it's just an install problem, like you said cheap easy fix compared to maybe having to pay to have them taken out and then back in with what you buy next...
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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I was leaning towards TSW as well, but I might be leaning towards NM springs instead. I need to consult my local expert before making my decision.

I've a lot of good things about NM and TSW on NAM.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobiek
I was leaning towards TSW as well, but I might be leaning towards NM springs instead. I need to consult my local expert before making my decision.

I've a lot of good things about NM and TSW on NAM.
I don't think NM is an option for R53s. Is there a reason you chose to use the word, "leaning"?
 
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