it seems a lot of people use these of brand items

 

[quote=not-so-rednwhitecooper]its actually replaced my hei unit, converted over from the standard distributor........its the whole deal , billet distributor,hopped up cap which has the magnetic points, so in shorter terms kick *** pointless system.
Summit carries it

 

another plus of the MSD coil is that MSD offers an igniton control box to go along with it.

it includes a rev limiter, a throttle stop for drag racing, a setting for multiple sparks, etc. chek it out, the install instructions are incredilbe!

http://msdignition.com/sci_5.htm

its the DIS-2, not the 4

 

Out of all the MINI venders, I wonder why they dont sell the MSD, (I guess Randy did at one time from what Ive read.) but sell the others? Im sure is some logical reason behind this....Is there?

 

reguardless, i'm going to try to see what the entire setup runs. id like to try out one of thse ignition boxes on a new car.

i should also add that it adds an ignition intterupt as a theft deterent.

 

maybey i'll wait on the ignition box, they start at 330 bucks and run to about 550, lol

 

thats wat i wuz referin' to but i heard thru a slew of people that that type of upgrade is really not necessary in stock or close to stock applications
but i do like the rev limiter idea since my impala is not stick i did not go w/that option!!!

 

i'm sure it isnt. but, if you plan pn upgrading, or even just want a throttle stop for drag racing or a decent way to fine tune your ignition syetm, that looks like a relatively reasonble way to do it!

under 600 bucks for an ignition system thats comparable to most hot drag cars? sounds like a deal to me.

 

It has worked for me the past two years. I don't know if Randy stopped or is still carrying them.

 

IMHO, Bling.

Tho there's nuthin' wrong with that.

 

higher technology cars..... but on my vintage cars it has helped

 

so how has this unit helped over the stock one? Does anyone have one?

 

So...has anyone made the definitive conclusion about which unit is better?

 

Hmmmm, do I go with a red one with 4,000 volts less or go with a black stock looking one with 4,000 volts more with about a $15-$20 diffrence in price... Hmmmm . I'll wait and see what everybody comes up with. (Data wise) Side note, The RED one sure looks good under the bonnet. but in the end, its ALL about performance....

 

nobody has any numbers on the Screamin Demon besides Voltage.

If i had to make a desicion b/w a screamin deamon coil that i can get any info on and a MSD coil that has all of the info and more listed on their website, id go with the MSD. proven quality that i know i can trust.

 

so adding the coil pack has helped you in which side of performance? Not trying to be a smart *** trying to understand exactly what difference it makes over stock

 

The only problem I see with that is MSD doesn't list one of their coils for a MCS application.

 

Mitsubishi 4 cyl coil

I'm led to believe that since chrysler had a hand in the design, they use some of their suppliers for some of the parts. the coils are identical for both the Mitsubishi and the MINI motors.

 

Anyone asked Pilo Racing if they could provide packs in different colors?

 

Good thought - I wish Pilo would address the difference between the boxes electrically speaking. That would put this to bed.

 

have you seen the very nice Ignition boc that goes along with the MSD? id take that and an MSD coil over a screamin demon anyday!

http://msdignition.com/sci_5.htm

 

Pilo Racing is 40,000 Volts and Black.

MSD is 36,000 Volts and Red.

 

IMHO, a higher voltage rating is NOT necessarily better. Thinner windings will give more voltage to advertise but at the cost of shorter lifespan and reduced current handling capability, and you'll only generate the maximum voltage when the wire is off the plug anyway. The voltage will only rise to that needed to arc-over the plug--that's why special high-voltage coils don't show power increases on the dyno (unless the original was broken).

Even the very cheapest coil is capable of driving a V-8 to 3500rpm... and if you think about it that's the same amount of work as a coil on a 7000rpm 4-cyl does. The MCS actually uses two coils, but may fire two cylinders together (eg also on exhaust stroke); works out to be the same.

The DIS box is interesting because it increases overall spark duration via multiple short sparks, that may be useful if extensive modifications (which may increase likelihood of misfire at WOT) are present. If it misfires on the first spark under 3000rpm, it will light off from one of the next ones with only slightly retarded timing. Above 3000rpm, the single spark extends over 20 degrees of crank rotation anyway.

 

Sid,
You're just jealous because it hasn't snowed here in, oh, 20 years !

We get to use summer tires all year long .

 

You shouldn't do that. Think about the cost of eye miscalibration . Get one of the gapping things from a car parts store [which has various metal pieces of various thicknesses]. It's well worth the piece of mind.