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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Interesting fact about the stock coil is that it is rated at 40k volts, not 36 like people have mentioned. Also, did anyone know that this coil pack fires two cylinders at once. And that the two cylinder spark paths are linked in series to carry the current flow. That means that one of the spark plugs in the series fires in reverse.
To me this means that ignitions wire resistance may be more important that usual.

Did some digging and found new and interesting (to me) information, straight from the horses mouth.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Where did you find this info?
 
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Straight from the horse's mouth. Believe or not, it is accurate.

I am also considering ignition upgrades and was recently given the gift of knowledge and thought I would share.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Sorry, but unless you are willing to expose your source, I will hold judgement on any of your claims.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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OK, I understand .

One more bit of info. 80% of the spark energy goes to the first (power stroke) cylinder and 20% to the second (exhaust stroke) cylinder in the series.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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http://www.msdignition.com/sci_4.htm

http://www.msdignition.com/pdf/62112_62152_frm25956.pdf

Links to MSD's site for the main info on the Ignition box and for the PDF of the user guide for the box.

Its really only nessecary if you want to presicely tune your car. The stock ECU does a decent job of handling the ignition for you on a mildy modified car.

If you were running nitrous or a TC, i could see the box as being benficial.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 002
Straight from the horse's mouth. Believe or not, it is accurate.

I am also considering ignition upgrades and was recently given the gift of knowledge and thought I would share.
cmon give it up!? ur source that is....
 
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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It is MINI information, not proprietary, but where I learned it.

If you look at the plug at the back of the coil you will notice that there is only one power and two ground wires. How do you think the coil knows which cylinder to fire? How can it fire four circuits with only two grounds on the primary side? It doesn't (sort of) and it can't.

If you don't believe me (which is perfectly fine with me ) try searching for "waste ignition" systems.

Anyway, thought I would share this info as I have also become interested in this system.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 03:36 AM
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when distributors disappeared, waste firing ignitions appeared.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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I think I'll just spray paint mine red and be done with it...
 
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Group Buy?????????

Any news on the Group Buy?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Not yet, i'm still waiting for more news from Summit...
 
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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I got a screamin demon and just painted it. You can see it in my gallery.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by draggonmann
I got a screamin demon and just painted it. You can see it in my gallery.
That looks pretty good. I think I will probaly do the same to mine when its installed later this month.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Update?????????
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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What Skuzy said.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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I second, or third what Alfie and skuzy asked.
Count me in on the group buy.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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OK I need AT LEAST 10 people to get any discount from Summit!

Im not going to give a price yet because im still working on that and its still up in the air.

Lets just say it will be les than the discounted price Summit lists it as.

Lets start right now posting on who is definately interested in buying one, i need to get a count.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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two
 
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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three, dependent on price of course
 
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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four
 
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
The MINI has round plug terminals.
Depends on what year the car is.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Mine is an 05 and had round terminals.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Will @ M7 Tuning
I'm pretty sure that they are talking about the interface terminals, not the plug wire terminals. The MINI uses flat terminals, and the coil is he same as the newer Neon.



and not



from http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/msd_coil.shtml
Hey folks Will figured out which terminal plug the MINI uses a few pages back on this thread.
 
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