New timing chain making noise
#1
New timing chain making noise
Ok, so I have spent the last few weeks on google trying to figure this one out but I am running into a wall and wanted to see if I could get some advise from people that have more experience with the Mini N14 engine then I do (just about anyone would have more experience then me) :-)
So my 2009 R56 Mini with the N14 started making an awful rattle/ticking noise, which led me to the decision to replace the timing chain. I have another vehicle to drive so I figured I would attempt it my self. So I googled and watched a bunch of youtube videos, then I ordered the parts I needed. The overall job wasn't too bad, just a few tips and tricks I wish I had known before I started but I got it done. I also had to drop the oil pan because the top plastic guide was busted and some made its was to the oil pan. I also used the cam lock tool when doing the work.
Well now I have finished the repairs and the car is running now, but I have a loud tick that sounds to be coming from the timing chain area. It almost sounds like a baseball card in a bike spoke, it also goes faster when I accelerate and never stops. ( I will try to upload a sound clip today of the noise.)
A few other things I have noticed are that it is now blowing blue smoke after I idle and then push the throttle a little harder, but it is not a constant blue smoke at all times. Also I have a loss of coolant but I do not believe that is related...
Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
So my 2009 R56 Mini with the N14 started making an awful rattle/ticking noise, which led me to the decision to replace the timing chain. I have another vehicle to drive so I figured I would attempt it my self. So I googled and watched a bunch of youtube videos, then I ordered the parts I needed. The overall job wasn't too bad, just a few tips and tricks I wish I had known before I started but I got it done. I also had to drop the oil pan because the top plastic guide was busted and some made its was to the oil pan. I also used the cam lock tool when doing the work.
Well now I have finished the repairs and the car is running now, but I have a loud tick that sounds to be coming from the timing chain area. It almost sounds like a baseball card in a bike spoke, it also goes faster when I accelerate and never stops. ( I will try to upload a sound clip today of the noise.)
A few other things I have noticed are that it is now blowing blue smoke after I idle and then push the throttle a little harder, but it is not a constant blue smoke at all times. Also I have a loss of coolant but I do not believe that is related...
Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
#3
I also replaced the exhaust sprocket that came in the kit.
Are you referring to cleaning the new parts or cleaning the plastic out of the engine where the timing chain goes? Yes I cleaned out all the plastic I could find and no I did not clean the new parts.
the only CEL code that is showing is referencing the catalytic converter.
I just pulled it into my garage and I am going to take the valve cover off and look over things again. Also I will pull the chain tensioner to check its length against the old one as I just read some of the aftermarket tensioners are shorts which can cause chain noises.
Are you referring to cleaning the new parts or cleaning the plastic out of the engine where the timing chain goes? Yes I cleaned out all the plastic I could find and no I did not clean the new parts.
the only CEL code that is showing is referencing the catalytic converter.
I just pulled it into my garage and I am going to take the valve cover off and look over things again. Also I will pull the chain tensioner to check its length against the old one as I just read some of the aftermarket tensioners are shorts which can cause chain noises.
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I rotated the engine but only enough to make sure timing was right before I pulled the tensioner and I did not hear the tapping. I will put the tensioner back in and check it again. I have a question though, the new tensioner is actually longer then the old one... I know the redesigned it but I wonder if it is putting to much tension on the new chain?
The new tensioner is on the right. The old one on the left had been replaced by a dealer with the recall.
The new tensioner is on the right. The old one on the left had been replaced by a dealer with the recall.
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#8
The longer one is the correct one to use.
before you put the cover back, make sure the lifters are all sitting right. also make sure the timing is still correct once you put the tensioner back.
there is also the oil pump cover that sort of tightens the oil pump chain. did you make sure that is placed correctly and the isnt slapping anything?
before you put the cover back, make sure the lifters are all sitting right. also make sure the timing is still correct once you put the tensioner back.
there is also the oil pump cover that sort of tightens the oil pump chain. did you make sure that is placed correctly and the isnt slapping anything?
#10
The longer one is the correct one to use.
before you put the cover back, make sure the lifters are all sitting right. also make sure the timing is still correct once you put the tensioner back.
there is also the oil pump cover that sort of tightens the oil pump chain. did you make sure that is placed correctly and the isnt slapping anything?
before you put the cover back, make sure the lifters are all sitting right. also make sure the timing is still correct once you put the tensioner back.
there is also the oil pump cover that sort of tightens the oil pump chain. did you make sure that is placed correctly and the isnt slapping anything?
with it burning oil when pressing the throttle, the tapping noise and the sucking noise should I look at having a compression test done?
#12
I checked the lifters and when I was rotating the engine I heard what I can best describe as a sucking sound. I don't know if it was from the valves or from the oil spot you mentioned previously. Also I will have to drop the oil pan again to check the chain cover and see if there is any slack.
with it burning oil when pressing the throttle, the tapping noise and the sucking noise should I look at having a compression test done?
with it burning oil when pressing the throttle, the tapping noise and the sucking noise should I look at having a compression test done?
Did you find a solution to this??
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