R56 Software changes/fixes needed thread
Hmm... That's too bad. I know that lots of folks were hoping that the ECU update would add those features for them.
Seems hard to imagine that they are hardware changes though. I wonder if MINI simply locked down the firmware to the car's build date and only allows updates to show that apply to the specific car and its date of manufacture??? Seems weird, but MINI is definitely a weird kind of company.
Seems hard to imagine that they are hardware changes though. I wonder if MINI simply locked down the firmware to the car's build date and only allows updates to show that apply to the specific car and its date of manufacture??? Seems weird, but MINI is definitely a weird kind of company.
Another change I would like to see them make, but it's not a software change is:
Re-arrange the buttons for the front and rear Fog lights and the front and rear defoggers. Anyone else notice the front defogger button is above the rear fog light, and the rear defogger button is above the front fog light???
That drives me nuts, I can never find the right ones since the icons on them is so similar and small it's hard to make them out. The front defogger should be next to tthe front fog light, and rear next to rear.
Re-arrange the buttons for the front and rear Fog lights and the front and rear defoggers. Anyone else notice the front defogger button is above the rear fog light, and the rear defogger button is above the front fog light???
That drives me nuts, I can never find the right ones since the icons on them is so similar and small it's hard to make them out. The front defogger should be next to tthe front fog light, and rear next to rear.
The last track position does work. If you are playing a regular CD, it will always continue where it left off. If you are playing MP3's, it will continue where it left off for about 15 minutes. After that it will continue at the beginning of the track. So if you stop at the coffe shop for a minute, it will continue where left off, but if you park for the evening, the next morning you start at beginning. That's how that should be.
I just discovered a work around yesterday that you can trick the car into remembering your track position for longer: mute the audio by pressing in the volume control **** before you turn the accessories power off.
I haven't tested it in every possible way yet, but it worked for me last night with a Car Talk podcast. I had the car off over a two hour wait, and then again overnight.
Another change I would like to see them make, but it's not a software change is:
Re-arrange the buttons for the front and rear Fog lights and the front and rear defoggers. Anyone else notice the front defogger button is above the rear fog light, and the rear defogger button is above the front fog light???
That drives me nuts, I can never find the right ones since the icons on them is so similar and small it's hard to make them out. The front defogger should be next to tthe front fog light, and rear next to rear.
Re-arrange the buttons for the front and rear Fog lights and the front and rear defoggers. Anyone else notice the front defogger button is above the rear fog light, and the rear defogger button is above the front fog light???
That drives me nuts, I can never find the right ones since the icons on them is so similar and small it's hard to make them out. The front defogger should be next to tthe front fog light, and rear next to rear.
In mine (manual AC) the front fogs are on the left of the panel, rears on the right and the rear window defroster in a button on the right.
Placement of a button is irrelevant to me anyway as I just learn the positions and that is that.
Actually, the new cruise control feature allows you to set the actual speed for your cruise and the MPH you've selected is displayed digitally in the OBC (on the tach) I believe. I've been meaning to test this out in our new MINI, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
For me, by far the most serious problem with the R56 Nav is that street names are not drawn along the angle of the street, as was done in the 1st gen Nav. On the R56 Nav, street names are displayed only horizontally, which makes it difficult to tell which label belongs to which line on the map. In locations where streets are close together, interpreting the map becomes very difficult. The POI search issue has had a lot of discussion on NAM but I consider this to be far more fundamentally important.
Here is a photo of my R52 Nav, where it DOES show street names at angles. Just imagine how this map would look with all the names horizontal:
Here is a photo of my R52 Nav, where it DOES show street names at angles. Just imagine how this map would look with all the names horizontal:
For me, by far the most serious problem with the R56 Nav is that street names are not drawn along the angle of the street, as was done in the 1st gen Nav. On the R56 Nav, street names are displayed only horizontally, which makes it difficult to tell which label belongs to which line on the map. In locations where streets are close together, interpreting the map becomes very difficult. The POI search issue has had a lot of discussion on NAM but I consider this to be far more fundamentally important.
Here is a photo of my R52 Nav, where it DOES show street names at angles. Just imagine how this map would look with all the names horizontal:

Here is a photo of my R52 Nav, where it DOES show street names at angles. Just imagine how this map would look with all the names horizontal:

Huh? Are you talking about something particular to Auto AC cars?
In mine (manual AC) the front fogs are on the left of the panel, rears on the right and the rear window defroster in a button on the right.
Placement of a button is irrelevant to me anyway as I just learn the positions and that is that.
In mine (manual AC) the front fogs are on the left of the panel, rears on the right and the rear window defroster in a button on the right.
Placement of a button is irrelevant to me anyway as I just learn the positions and that is that.
No biggie, but I seem to never turn the correct thing on because of it. You don't realize it until the window isn't defogging...
Hmmmm..... I wonder how hard it would be to swap those top buttons myself??? Are they hard to get at?
EDIT: What is the empty button to the left of my rear defogger for anyway? I have pretty much every option possible (minus the JCW performance stuff). The optional rally lights maybe?
Last edited by Birdman; Dec 27, 2007 at 12:41 PM.
Just a guess--I think it might be for the heated front windscreen (unavailable in the US).
@rkw,
Yes, forgot that one, thanks. Added as #18.
@mauberley,
Yep, that's it, thanks. I posted this question in the main forum and somebody answered it. Too bad we can't get that option, I'd love a heated windshield.
Yes, forgot that one, thanks. Added as #18.
@mauberley,
Yep, that's it, thanks. I posted this question in the main forum and somebody answered it. Too bad we can't get that option, I'd love a heated windshield.
Yes, with Auto AC. Look at this picture, the FRONT defogger is just above the REAR fog light. And opposite on the other side. Just seems like they should be arranged together (fronts with fronts, rears with rears). In addition, the front defogger on the right side is on the outside (furthest to right) button and the rear button is on the inside button on the left. There just is no symmetry to it. The defogger buttons should be reversed, and on the right side the AC button should be swapped with the defogger button. This way the right side would be for the rear, the left side would be for the front.
No biggie, but I seem to never turn the correct thing on because of it. You don't realize it until the window isn't defogging...
Hmmmm..... I wonder how hard it would be to swap those top buttons myself??? Are they hard to get at?
EDIT: What is the empty button to the left of my rear defogger for anyway? I have pretty much every option possible (minus the JCW performance stuff). The optional rally lights maybe?
No biggie, but I seem to never turn the correct thing on because of it. You don't realize it until the window isn't defogging...
Hmmmm..... I wonder how hard it would be to swap those top buttons myself??? Are they hard to get at?
EDIT: What is the empty button to the left of my rear defogger for anyway? I have pretty much every option possible (minus the JCW performance stuff). The optional rally lights maybe?
The empty button is for a heated windshield.
As far as button swap, since they are all the same, as long as they are individually wired I would imagine it would just be a process of swapping wires/plug harness on the two switches. However if the whole switch assembly has a circuit board on the back, then it might not be that easy, if possible at all.
For the rest of the list goes. Like always, just my opinions, obviously we disagree on some. Like many things, it's just a matter of learning how they work. This doesn't mean there isn't a different way to do the same thing, that boils down to personal preference.
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1. Sunroof: Adjust software so sunroof switch works properly: 1 tap lifts roof (currently works), 2 taps slides roof open.
2. Sunroof: Opposite of above, 1 tap to close the sunroof instead of having to hold it.
3. Windows: Change software so we have One Touch window up.
4. Keyfob: Allow holding the keyfob lock button to rull up windows and shut sunroof (like you can do with the black rubber button on handle). Or do what the 1st Gen vehicles did, press lock then un-lock quickly to roll up windows....
5. Navigation: Make ALL menu selections the same color and the highlighted item all the same color. Currently it's difficult sometimes to see what is highlighted. Especially with the icons on right side of the nav screens. Use inverse highlighting instead of color and font size changing.
6. Bluetooth: Make a car address book, so if a phone can't sync, you can create your own phone book to dial from. And/or, simply add a field "Phone #" to the destinations database, so we can dial that # as you can in the built in POI db.
7. Wipers: Allow the "Auto Wipers" to stay on all the time, until shut it off, instead of having to turn it on each time car starts. Remember state of wipers.
They should add a setting so this is user (Motor-er ?) adjustable. There should be a setting in the OBC/Nav to toggle this feature on or off. I think having the auto-wipers not defaulting to on all the time is just fine.
8. Lights: Add a "Always leave lights on for xx seconds" setting after shutting off the car, instead of having to hit blinker stalk to leave lights on...
9. Blinkers: Allow a "# of Blinks" setting for the one touch blinker. Instead of being locked into 3 blinks.
10. Navigation: Add a "Traffic Alert Mode". Nav guidance would only give traffiic alert avoidence guidence. So when the destination is Home, and you know the way home, you don't have to listen to direction the whole way, only if alerts pop up....
I didn't know it didn't do this. It doesn't give you any indication of traffic when you're are driving without a destination or route? We don't have traffic coverage in my area for me to check out how it works.
This is a normal feature in portable GPS like the Nuvi with traffic antenna/subscription.
11. Warning system: Abiltiy to reset the emmisions sensors as is done with the flat tire monitor. So false alarms could be cleared without a service visit....
12. Passenger seatbelt audible warning bypass. Allow the driver to turn off the audible seatbelt warning for the passenger seat when an object (briefcase, grocery bags....) are placed on the seat. Currently you have to buckle in your briefcase which is not easy task and can be dangerous if moving (reaching accross car....).
Is it safe to have things on the seat? I have never placed items on a seat with an airbag. Just seems like it would turn into a projectile if the bag deployed. Even without an airbag going off, braking or an emergency maneuver would send stuff flying. The way the Mini handles, it's easy to have things flying around in the car.
13. Navigation: Add a "SEARCH ALL" function to search through the entire POI db when looking for something. Currently, you have to know the State and Town and/or the category of the POI to search in. What if I don't know what category it would fall into, I just know the name? Or what if I don't know what town it is in? I just want to type in the name "xyz business" and search for it, find the closest one. There are 100+ categories and each one has to be searched separetly.

14. Navigation: After searching a Category for a name, LEAVE the name in the system if nothing is found and allow us to search other categories for the same name. Currently you have to re-type the name each time you search a category for it. With 100's of category's, this can take literally hours.
15. Navigation: Default the location setting when doing "On New Location" POI searches. Currently, when you search for something by selecting the "On New Location" option, you must select a State (by scrolling thru them all), then type in a City (one letter at time). Almost ALL the time, people will be searching for something in the current state, that should be the default rather than having to scroll thru starting at Alaska!
16. Navigation: Ability to SAVE TO ADDRESS BOOK, after finding a POI via a search. Currently, the only way to save a POI to your address book is to first select it, then Navigate to it (wait for system to calculate the route, then re-draw map...), then go back to the menu, stop navigating, then select previous destinations, then scroll down to the one you just found, then select it, then hit Save to Address Book.
17. Entertainment system: Allow saving indefinitely the track position of a CD or MP3. Currently the track position is saved for 15 minutes when the vehicle is shut off. After 15 minutes, the track is re-stared at the beginning. This is fine for most music, but for books on CD with 60 minute tracks or more, this can be anoying to get back to where you left off the next day...
#18 street names following roads
How about a user selectable theme for the Nav screen? One for daytime with a white background and night time theme with a black background. This would be user controllable. Set it for the way it is now, or an auto setting that switches it at sundown/sunrise. Or a third setting to pick which one you want, black background or white background. They wouldn't have to go crazy with a ton of themes, just those two would be nice.
Originally Posted by minidrvr
I haven't had any false alarms. If it was falsing a lot that idea sounds good. However how would a person know it's not something not working right on the car without the service visit?
Originally Posted by minidrvr
Is it safe to have things on the seat? I have never placed items on a seat with an airbag. Just seems like it would turn into a projectile if the bag deployed. Even without an airbag going off, braking or an emergency maneuver would send stuff flying. The way the Mini handles, it's easy to have things flying around in the car.
As for the customizing the Nav screens. I agree with all that, but we can't even upgrade the thing, change the voice..... forget getting into that stuff. Don't even get me started!!
Last edited by Birdman; Dec 27, 2007 at 03:12 PM.
Wrap-around menus
Although I haven't read this thread in its entirety, a quick scan didn't reveal a suggested fix to one of my pet peeves.
As far as I can tell, all menus on the MINI, navigation, phone, or entertainment, are uni-directional. They start at "A" and end at "Z". So if I want to select the album "We shall overcome...", I have to scroll through practically the entire alphabet, perhaps a couple hundred albums. If the menus would wrap-around at both ends, I could go backwards from "A" to get to "W" in short order.
Further, it would be useful, I think, if when I went up a level in the menu hierarchy, it would return to the spot from which I went down, instead of starting over at the beginning with "A".
Both suggestions would make it quicker to navigate menus, I believe. I thought perhaps the first, at least, was an option, but haven't been able to find it anywhere.
As far as I can tell, all menus on the MINI, navigation, phone, or entertainment, are uni-directional. They start at "A" and end at "Z". So if I want to select the album "We shall overcome...", I have to scroll through practically the entire alphabet, perhaps a couple hundred albums. If the menus would wrap-around at both ends, I could go backwards from "A" to get to "W" in short order.
Further, it would be useful, I think, if when I went up a level in the menu hierarchy, it would return to the spot from which I went down, instead of starting over at the beginning with "A".
Both suggestions would make it quicker to navigate menus, I believe. I thought perhaps the first, at least, was an option, but haven't been able to find it anywhere.
Colea,
I have also noticed the menu's don't "wrap-around". Particularly the horizontal (left to right) menu's. When you get to the rightmost end, the white dot get highlighted (as well as the last item), and you can't go any further. it should wrap around and go back to beginning. It's especially difficult to see you are at the end of those menu's if the last item is not currently selectable (aka grayed out). In those cases, the ending "dot" gets highlighted and the un-selectable item gets kinda gray and the font turns to italics.
Just INVERSE the selection please!!! Quit trying to be "cute" with it. If the item is not selectable, then simply beep if I try to hit enter on it. You know, like the way every menu on the planet works.
Will add wrap around menu's to list.
I have also noticed the menu's don't "wrap-around". Particularly the horizontal (left to right) menu's. When you get to the rightmost end, the white dot get highlighted (as well as the last item), and you can't go any further. it should wrap around and go back to beginning. It's especially difficult to see you are at the end of those menu's if the last item is not currently selectable (aka grayed out). In those cases, the ending "dot" gets highlighted and the un-selectable item gets kinda gray and the font turns to italics.
Just INVERSE the selection please!!! Quit trying to be "cute" with it. If the item is not selectable, then simply beep if I try to hit enter on it. You know, like the way every menu on the planet works.
Will add wrap around menu's to list.
That's would be nice, but no beeping, or at least user configurable if it did. I can't stand how most electronic stuff beeps when you use it (cell phones, watches, etc). I'd pass on that one. At least with cell phones you can shut that off. There's a long time employee at my local super market who actually has some kind of disorder due to the scanner beeping constantly. I never really thought about it but I couldn't work there with all constant sound as items are rung up.
The iPod adapter is supposed to handle up to 255 playlists, but the number can be much lower (as low as 20 playlists reported in this thread). The real limit seems to be 5000 total tracks, and the adapter simply stops cataloging beyond that.
The adapter should have no limitations at all! The adapter already costs almost as much as the most expensive iPod. Including dealer installation, the adapter ends up being several times more expensive than most iPods!
The adapter should have no limitations at all! The adapter already costs almost as much as the most expensive iPod. Including dealer installation, the adapter ends up being several times more expensive than most iPods!
Last edited by rkw; Dec 28, 2007 at 12:09 PM.
Door locks: You should be able to program the doors to auto-unlock when the ignition is switched off as you could in the R53. This eliminates the "double pull" action to open the doors.
(yes i know you can set the doors not to auto-lock when the car starts moving, but with children and bad neighborhoods this is a must.)
(yes i know you can set the doors not to auto-lock when the car starts moving, but with children and bad neighborhoods this is a must.)
Add the ability to store HD2 radio stations. See this thread.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=125432
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=125432
Add the ability to store HD2 radio stations. See this thread.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=125432
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=125432
Added as #22.
That falls under keeping all the settings in memory....


