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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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R56 Software changes/fixes needed thread

Ok, we need a list of all the software changes which are needed on the R56 in one place, so MINI can start making the changes and release an update for us. Remember, this is NOT mods, changes to the physical car, things they should do next time.... this is just changes that can simply be made on the EXISTING cars software to make it better:

I'll start the list, and update it by editing this post as we go:

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1. Sunroof: Adjust software so sunroof switch works properly: 1 tap lifts roof (currently works), 2 taps slides roof open.

2. Sunroof: Opposite of above, 1 tap to close the sunroof instead of having to hold it.

3. Windows: Change software so we have One Touch window up.

4. Keyfob: Allow holding the keyfob lock button to roll up windows and shut sunroof (like you can do with the black rubber button on handle). Or do what the 1st Gen vehicles did, press lock then un-lock quickly to roll up windows....

5. Navigation: Make ALL menu selections the same color and the highlighted item all the same color. Currently it's difficult sometimes to see what is highlighted. Especially with the icons on right side of the nav screens. Use inverse highlighting instead of color and font size changing.

6. Bluetooth: Make a car address book, so if a phone can't sync, you can create your own phone book to dial from. And/or, simply add a field "Phone #" to the destinations database, so we can dial that # as you can in the built in POI db.

7. Wipers: Allow the "Auto Wipers" to stay on all the time, until it is shut off, instead of having to turn it on each time car starts. Remember state of wipers.

8. Lights: Add a "Always leave lights on for xx seconds" setting after shutting off the car, instead of having to hit blinker stalk to leave lights on...

9. Blinkers: Allow a "# of Blinks" setting for the one touch blinker. Instead of being locked into 3 blinks.

10. Navigation: Add a "Traffic Alert Mode". Nav guidance would only give traffic alert avoidance guidance. So when the destination is Home, and you know the way home, you don't have to listen to direction the whole way, only if alerts pop up....

11. Warning system: Ability to reset the emissions sensors as is done with the flat tire monitor. So false alarms could be cleared without a service visit....

12. Passenger seatbelt audible warning bypass. Allow the driver to turn off the audible seatbelt warning for the passenger seat when an object (briefcase, grocery bags....) are placed on the seat. Currently you have to buckle in your briefcase which is not easy task and can be dangerous if moving (reaching across car....).

13. Navigation: Add a "SEARCH ALL" function to search through the entire POI db when looking for something. Currently, you have to know the State and Town and/or the category of the POI to search in. What if I don't know what category it would fall into, I just know the name? Or what if I don't know what town it is in? I just want to type in the name "xyz business" and search for it, find the closest one. There are 100+ categories and each one has to be searched separately and can HOURS to find, literaly.

14. Navigation: After searching a Category for a name, LEAVE the name in the system if nothing is found and allow us to search other categories for the same name. Currently you have to re-type the name each time you search a category for it. With 100's of category's, this can take literally hours.

15. Navigation: Default the location setting when doing "On New Location" POI searches. Currently, when you search for something by selecting the "On New Location" option, you must select a State (by scrolling thru them all), then type in a City (one letter at time). Almost ALL the time, people will be searching for something in the current state, that should be the default rather than having to scroll thru them all starting at Alaska!

16. Navigation: Ability to SAVE TO ADDRESS BOOK, after finding a POI via a search. Currently, the only way to save a POI to your address book is to first select it, then Navigate to it (wait for system to calculate the route, then re-draw map...), then go back to the menu, stop navigating, then select previous destinations, then scroll down to the one you just found, then select it, then hit Save to Address Book.

17. Entertainment system: Allow saving indefinitely the track position of a CD or MP3. Currently the track position is saved for 15 minutes when the vehicle is shut off. After 15 minutes, the track is re-stared at the beginning. This is fine for most music, but for books on CD with 60 minute tracks or more, this can be annoying to get back to where you left off the next day...

18. Navigation: Street names need to be changed so they are displayed parallel to the street they are labeling. Currently, they are ALL shown horizontal, with a tiny little barely visible black dot marking the street they are naming. If the street names can't be changed to match the direction of the actual street, then at the very least, the little black DOT should be enlarged and/or made a bright color so you can actually see it.

19. All Menus: Wrap around the menu choices. If the end of a menu is hit, the next selection should bring you back to the begining of that menu, whether it's a horizontal or vertical menu. For example, in a list of A to Z, when I get to Z, the next rotation of the joystick should bring us back to A

20. Convenience Package: Allow the car to Auto-lock after exiting the car and shutting the door. The software should have 2 settings: Auto Lock On/Off and if set to On, then Lock doors after xx seconds. So after parking, you just get out, shut the door and walk away, and behind you after xx seconds, you hear "CHIRP" and the lights flash (assuming you have the chrip and light flash settings turned on). This is the whole premise behind "Convenience Packcage"!

21. Parking lights: Allow the headlights to stay on xx seconds after parking and shutting off the car withpout having to flash the high beam flasher. Currently you have park, then press the start/stop button to turn off the car, then press start/stop button again to turn off radio mode, then flash the high beam flasher stalk, then get out, then hold the black button to lock the door. All just to get the headlights to stay on for 30 seconds so you can see in a dark parking area.

22. HD Radio: Add the abilty to store HD2 radio stations as you can with regular radio stations and HD1 stations.

23. Display CD Text for regular audio CD's for vehicles without navigation.

23. Add analoge type displays for engine information to the Navigation display for items like: coolant temp, Oil temp, Boost, ...

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All I could think of right now off the top of my head, start adding yours.
 

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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman
3. Windows: Change software so we have One touch window up.
Agree.

4. Keyfob: Allow holding the keyfob lock button to rull up windows and shut sunroof (like you can do with the black rubber button on handle).
I have Comfort Access and never take the fob out of my pocket.

5. Navigation: Make ALL menu selections the same color and the highlighted item all the same color. Currently it's difficult sometimes to see what is highlighted.
I don't have a problem with the colors as they are. Where, specifically, is it hard to tell what is highlighted? I may not have used that area.

6. Bluetooth: Make a car address book, so if a phone can't sync, you can create your own phone book to dial from. OR, simply add a field "Phone #" to the destinations database, so we could dial that # as you can for the built in POI db.
Someday, I'll have to check this out. I never bothered to put phone numbers in my phone, but then I don't use my cel much.

7. Wipers: Allow the "Auto Wipers" to stay on all the time, until shut it off, instead of having to turn it on each time car starts.
Hasn't rained, so not sure about this. Seems reasonable.

8. Lights: Add a "Always leave lights on for xx seconds" setting after shutting off the car, instead of having to hit blinker stalk to leave lights on...

I'll have to check, but I thought it already had this feature.

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All I could think of right now off the top of my head, start adding yours.
9. Be able to set the NAV guidance to only give traffic congestion alerts and avoidance instructions. I don't want it telling me how to get home, I just want to avoid traffic jams on the way.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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You won't get 1 through 4 due to liability/safety reasons and our litigious society.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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I want to add:
- remember fog light on/off state
- remember "sport" button on/off state
- remember "random" play mode and last track position for radio

Right now, I have to redo these settings every time I start the car.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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more options for the one touch blinkers, 3, 4, and 5 blink options, or more, how hard could it be really!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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don't forget the reprogram for the emissions sensors..... they r WAY too sensitive right now.... i'd like more colors on the ambient lighting, but hey ya can't have everything.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LOP
You won't get 1 through 4 due to liability/safety reasons and our litigious society.
Yeh, but if they don't I'll sui them!!!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KOW
I want to add:
- remember fog light on/off state
- remember "sport" button on/off state
- remember "random" play mode and last track position for radio

Right now, I have to redo these settings every time I start the car.
The last track position does work. If you are playing a regular CD, it will always continue where it left off. If you are playing MP3's, it will continue where it left off for about 15 minutes. After that it will continue at the beginning of the track. So if you stop at the coffe shop for a minute, it will continue where left off, but if you park for the evening, the next morning you start at beginning. That's how that should be.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin Casady
I have Comfort Access and never take the fob out of my pocket.
Me too, but I would love to walk away holding my FOB key button to lock anbd close up rather than stand at my door for 30 seconds looking like a numskull. Everyone asks me what the heck I'm doing.

I don't have a problem with the colors as they are. Where, specifically, is it hard to tell what is highlighted? I may not have used that area.
Go to Map display, then hit joystick right so you are in the menu accross the right top side of display (Traffic alerts, Nav/no nav, highway/no highway setting,...). Each icon is a different color, and some of them highlight in different colors also. BUt, this item I should have been more general. The Nav menu's are all kinda "wierd". Some scroll up and down, some scroll right to left, some are different colors, sometimes the items scroll across screen as you scroll instead of the highlighting scrolling, sometimes it doesn't. It's just not as intuitive as it should/could be.


9. Be able to set the NAV guidance to only give traffic congestion alerts and avoidance instructions. I don't want it telling me how to get home, I just want to avoid traffic jams on the way.
Thats a good idea!!, call it "Traffic alert mode".
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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3. Windows: Change software so we have One touch window up.

= New aftermarket module in the works= 1-2 months

4. Keyfob: Allow holding the keyfob lock button to rull up windows and shut sunroof (like you can do with the black rubber button on handle).

= ditto...Module in testing = auto-up with keyfob= maybe 1 month
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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Aaron,
Nice work and cool. BUT, mini should just adjust the SOFTWARE to fix it. It should just be a software change, not buy hardware and install it.....
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OutMotoring
3. Windows: Change software so we have One touch window up.


= New aftermarket module in the works= 1-2 months

4. Keyfob: Allow holding the keyfob lock button to rull up windows and shut sunroof (like you can do with the black rubber button on handle).


= ditto...Module in testing = auto-up with keyfob= maybe 1 month
Dude, post that when it happens!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LOP
You won't get 1 through 4 due to liability/safety reasons and our litigious society.
How does BMW (along with many other manufacturers) get away with it then? My Dad's 03 330xi has all 4 windows and roof one touch up and down.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OutMotoring
3. Windows: Change software so we have One touch window up.

= New aftermarket module in the works= 1-2 months

4. Keyfob: Allow holding the keyfob lock button to rull up windows and shut sunroof (like you can do with the black rubber button on handle).

= ditto...Module in testing = auto-up with keyfob= maybe 1 month
That makes me SOOOOOOOO happy!!!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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let sport button stay ON till you turn it off...

I know--legal dept will never let it happen
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman
The last track position does work. If you are playing a regular CD, it will always continue where it left off. If you are playing MP3's, it will continue where it left off for about 15 minutes. After that it will continue at the beginning of the track. So if you stop at the coffe shop for a minute, it will continue where left off, but if you park for the evening, the next morning you start at beginning. That's how that should be.
The last track postion doesn't work with regular CD if you go more than about 15 or 20 min. I listen to books on tape all the time and it is a PITA. If the car is off for more than a half an hour I have to fast foward through the track and guess at it to get back close to where I last stopped listening. I agree for music the jump back to the beginning of the track is fine. For us book listeners, not so much.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Auto up windows will be std for 08
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OutMotoring
3. Windows: Change software so we have One touch window up.

= New aftermarket module in the works= 1-2 months

4. Keyfob: Allow holding the keyfob lock button to rull up windows and shut sunroof (like you can do with the black rubber button on handle).

= ditto...Module in testing = auto-up with keyfob= maybe 1 month
yes alert me when it's for sale. I purchased the one that was available for the first generation and it was plain old AWESOME!!!!

edit: Wait, the old unit closed the windows and sunroof when you did lock then unlock quickly which worked really well. The signal on the MINI key was not good on the 1st gen MINI, so if the new remote is the same, this holding method will be a nightmare. Please keep the old style of lock then unlock if you at all possible.
 

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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Not to get into a fight over wearing them or not, but there should be an option to disable the audible alarm for at least the passenger's side seat belt.

I'm fine with the warning light, and fine with the driver's side doing whatever, because I'm going to be wearing my belt anyway. I'm not so cool with having to buckle my back pack into the passenger's seat to get to work and back without the darn chime driving me batty. After all, NH still doesn't require seat belts, so it's not like it's the law everywhere, yet, and they don't have all these warnings anywhere else.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by oldopelguy
Not to get into a fight over wearing them or not, but there should be an option to disable the audible alarm for at least the passenger's side seat belt.

I'm fine with the warning light, and fine with the driver's side doing whatever, because I'm going to be wearing my belt anyway. I'm not so cool with having to buckle my back pack into the passenger's seat to get to work and back without the darn chime driving me batty. After all, NH still doesn't require seat belts, so it's not like it's the law everywhere, yet, and they don't have all these warnings anywhere else.
If I put my laptop in its case on the seat it triggers the alarm. I bet a sack of groceries would do the same.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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For the guys who are mad at the chime for seatbelts; this works on Subies/Toyotas..It may work on the mini.. With the key on-On/Well without the engine started. Buckle and unbuckle the seatbelt 30 times in one minute. The car should now not chime till a hard reset.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mommashine
don't forget the reprogram for the emissions sensors..... they r WAY too sensitive right now....
This is not MINI's choice. The senstivity of the emissions components is mandated by the US Govt. MINI has to comply with these emissions laws. With the way things are going these are going to get MORE sensitive, not less.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by e30r56
How does BMW (along with many other manufacturers) get away with it then? My Dad's 03 330xi has all 4 windows and roof one touch up and down.
These manufacturers "get away with it" by providing some sort of anti-pinch protection, meaning that the system can detect that an arm (or some other body part) is in the way of the window and can stop the window before said body part gets crushed.

There are 2 ways to provide this anti-pinch protection. Most manufacturers monitor the electrical current used by the window motor to raise the window. If the motor encounters any resistance the current will spike up. A computer sees this spike and reverses the window. This would require a hardware change and not just a software change.

The other way (which BMW uses) is an electrical sensor in the weatherstrip. When your dad's BMW window is going up press on the weatherstip at the top of the window. It will go back down.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jimsevo8
This is not MINI's choice. The senstivity of the emissions components is mandated by the US Govt. MINI has to comply with these emissions laws. With the way things are going these are going to get MORE sensitive, not less.
He is not referring to how much emiisions is released by the car, he is referring to the idiot lights coming on because the sensors "smell" emmisions for 1/2 second when the car almost stalled or something (aka, motor got choked and lots of extra fuel is not burnt as it normally would be and therefore released). This was a temporary thing, not permanent and the sensors should be able to be reset in this instance. For example, a newbie learning stick will almost stall the car often, making the emmisions higher than normal for a second or two each time. He doesn't need the emmisions sensor light coming on, and staying on becuase of it. He shoul dbe able to "reset it/clear it" via the software.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jimsevo8
These manufacturers "get away with it" by providing some sort of anti-pinch protection, meaning that the system can detect that an arm (or some other body part) is in the way of the window and can stop the window before said body part gets crushed.
If I'm not mistaken, anti-pinch protection is present on ALL cars in the US with electrical windows by law. And if that is true, Mini needs to CHANGE THE SOFTWARE.
 
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