STX (Street Touring X) 225/45-15 shaved Hankooks work

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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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225/45-15 shaved Hankooks work

Kosei R1 Wheels - 38mm offset, -2.5 camber front, -1.0 camber rear - temp 40-50 degrees (damned cold)

1.05 g lateral consistantly, and .97 stopping

driveability good, tolerance for excessive slip angle (my sloppy driving) better than the Falkens I think, but that's pretty subjective

data from the Devens EVO school - which was fabulous as usual

i was surprised and delighted to find NO rubbing, despite instructor enthusiasm and my 190 pounds on the passenger side during four runs

just a heads up for folks that like wide and cheap

ps: they are lower, so allow for that - my chin spoiler is getting a bit of wear from time to time...
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Sounds like you have some kind of data aquisition device. If so, how fast can you go in 2nd gear with those tires?
(you're speedometer won't be accurate due to the major change in gearing)

Also, how did you determine they are better in the cold than the Falken Azenis RT-615's? We have 2 events in January, 2 in February and 2 in March and my Kumho V710 race tires were worthless!
 

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Originally Posted by mitchman
Sounds like you have some kind of data aquisition device. If so, how fast can you go in 2nd gear with those tires?
(you're speedometer won't be accurate due to the major change in gearing)

Also, how did you determine they are better in the cold than the Falken Azenis RT-615's? We have 2 events in January, 2 in February and 2 in March and my Kumho V710 race tires were worthless!
1. almost.... G-Tech (so no GPS). I'd make an educated guess and say 65 mph (which takes advantage of the 6800 JCW redline). That is based only on arithmetic though (revs per mile for OEM Dunlops - 852, and for the Hankooks - 876).

2. I didn't! as my plan to get back to back comparative data fell apart...

They are a gamble, and perhaps the Falkens are better. Too soon to say. If Falken made this size I would run it without hesitation.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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data

the black run was at 2pm, the red one 11 am. about 45 deg max on the day though...
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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http://sccaforums.com/forums/1/230756/ShowThread.aspx

I haven't really been following this thread but....
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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more data

Regional Solo up in New Hampshire - 60 degrees and dry - tire temps never reached 110 degrees
 
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Old May 13, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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more Hankook 225/45-15 performance data

Not my best day. Lovely LONG course, and fast. 1.08 g turning left illustrated. Not bad for street tires. Note the variety of slaloms...
 
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Thought this might be interesting: (the last line)

 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 03:47 AM
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thanks for sharing... what is the data collection device?
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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MaxQData. But I transfered the data to Excel myself.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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on a wet day these tires pulled .83 with some standing water, and .88 about 45 minutes later - still wet but fewer puddles. Devens National (after the thunderstorms abated a little)....

decent, but not outstanding is my reaction
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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MaxQData. But I transfered the data to Excel myself.
I was thinking about getting one. Is it somewhat easy to use?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Yes, but it works best if you have a co-driver. Here's their forum, there's lots of good questions and answers there:

http://www.maxqdata.com/phpBB2/index.php

Let me know if you have any questions.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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Just a postscript on this thread....

I've run the shaved Kooks all summer as daily drivers, and they have worn well with tread bars now visible but no cording and no unusual wear patterns.

However...

The grip is down now, and I am being eaten alive by the RE-01R folks.

The moral of the story is...

Next year's setup will be shaved RE-01Rs (unless something changes) but I shall have to treat them like slicks - changing at the event and NOT putting an extra 10,000 miles of daily summer driving on them.

Live & learn.
 
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