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Old 05-16-2018, 09:26 PM
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R58 2014 Several Questions

I have 2014 R58. Several days ago I've been seing "Increased Battery Charge" then I read about leaving door unlock discharges battery. I tested my battery with multimeter and reads 14. And lately I'm experiencing hesitation when starting the engine and when accelerating.
1. Is it possible my battery is not fully charged or bad? And cause the hesitation?
2. If I remove the battery and charge it, do I need to register the battery?
3. Can I pick up a battery at local car part store or is there specific type for mini?

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You can't go by battery voltage with out placing a load on it. As batteries age sulfidation occurs on the internal plates. As this continues the batteries loose capacity. They may still hold 14 volts with no load but can no longer carry the amp draw needed. Your local auto parts store can test the capacity of the battery. Group 40, 47 and 48 batteries will fit with the group 48 being the exact same dimensions as the factory battery. As long as it is a round 600 CCA with a 70 amp/hour rating or better you can use. One note of caution that can be easy to overlook. Make sure the battery you buy comes with the vent hole on the side to plug the vent tube into. All lead acid batteries gas when charging producing sulfur dioxide and hydrogen. Directly behind your battery is the cabin air filter. This is where outside air enters the cabin when the environmental system is not on recirculate.
 
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Almost forgot. If the negative terminal of your battery does not have an additional connector on it with wires coming of it then you do not have IBS monitoring and no battery registration is necessary. If you do have the IBS option then battery registering is recommended to maximize your new battery life. But it is not absolutely necessary. I use the Carly for BMW app on my phone to run diagnostics, clear error codes, reset service checks and do battery registration.
 
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You can't go by battery voltage with out placing a load on it. As batteries age sulfidation occurs on the internal plates. As this continues the batteries loose capacity. They may still hold 14 volts with no load but can no longer carry the amp draw needed. Your local auto parts store can test the capacity of the battery. Group 40, 47 and 48 batteries will fit with the group 48 being the exact same dimensions as the factory battery. As long as it is a round 600 CCA with a 70 amp/hour rating or better you can use. One note of caution that can be easy to overlook. Make sure the battery you buy comes with the vent hole on the side to plug the vent tube into. All lead acid batteries gas when charging producing sulfur dioxide and hydrogen. Directly behind your battery is the cabin air filter. This is where outside air enters the cabin when the environmental system is not on recirculate.
Thank you Tiggerw2011 think I need a new bettery still using the original battery. This one about 4 years old... thanks
 
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Almost forgot. If the negative terminal of your battery does not have an additional connector on it with wires coming of it then you do not have IBS monitoring and no battery registration is necessary. If you do have the IBS option then battery registering is recommended to maximize your new battery life. But it is not absolutely necessary. I use the Carly for BMW app on my phone to run diagnostics, clear error codes, reset service checks and do battery registration.
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Yep thats an IBS connector on the negative terminal. I'd recommend registering a new battery.
 
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Yep thats an IBS connector on the negative terminal. I'd recommend registering a new battery.
I contacted mini service charging me $400 for new battery and register. Found new battey for $120. But mini wont register items purchase elsewhere. Luckly I have foxwell NT 510 that is capable for registering new battery... thank your assistance Bosch battery posted below
 
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Yep, just make sure to register it and you should be fine. I dont see the cross ref for that battery but the CCA and CA should be close to the same and the size and terminal placement should be the same as the old one.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nt-help-2.html
 
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Yep, just make sure to register it and you should be fine. I dont see the cross ref for that battery but the CCA and CA should be close to the same and the size and terminal placement should be the same as the old one.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nt-help-2.html
below is the spec of my current battery.. size is the same... the bosch tech only check the size of my battery they don’t have book for reference.
 
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Originally Posted by ervicta View Post

below is the spec of my current battery.. size is the same... the bosch tech only check the size of my battery they don’t have book for reference.
Did you ask Mini if this is covered under 4yr/50k warranty?
 
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Originally Posted by dube53 View Post
Did you ask Mini if this is covered under 4yr/50k warranty?
i’ts pre-owed bought at mini they only cover 90 days from purchased date.
 
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That battery should be fine. My wife’s 2014 R57 and my 2013 R58 JCW battery’s went bad with in a week of each other. I just went the local parts store and grabbed a new battery. I used my Foxwell to register them. All is good with both cars
 
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My battery died in my R58 JCW because before i bought it, the owner had the car sitting for long period of time and never trickled charged it. If MINI sees that they can deny a warranty, they did on mine. They pulled the info and could see it was sitting with a few starts and the battery low for months. I got a new one and it was good to go , then just register with the schwaben tool.
 
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My battery died in my R58 JCW because before i bought it, the owner had the car sitting for long period of time and never trickled charged it. If MINI sees that they can deny a warranty, they did on mine. They pulled the info and could see it was sitting with a few starts and the battery low for months. I got a new one and it was good to go , then just register with the schwaben tool.
What is the purpose to register a battery? I may miss something here.
 
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Its just to reset the system, the IBS will control the amount of charge the alternator will give overtime to prolong the battery. That's what its based off of.
 
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As the battery ages I believe the IBS will increase charge rate. If you do not register you may be putting wrong charge to your new battery shortening its life. In the UK mini uses a AGM battery which is a lot more costly than the standard one. I payed £150 for AGM battery and £20 for local auto electrician to register battery.
 
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