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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 01:27 PM
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R56 Hood Scoop Warping

My '09 R56 MCS is starting to show a bit of warping of the hood scoop. I've searched and found a lot of references to this and lots of aftermarket turbo insulation options, and I found the 09/2009 TCSB changing the scoop from plastic to metal. I only found one reference to what the dealer did, however, and that was to allow an upgrade to carbon fiber JCS scoop by "paying the difference". I have a warranty to 2018, but is this a recall item? Can expect dealer to replace, paint and stripe a new scoop?
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My dealer replaced the turbo heat shield and timing chain tightener when I first bought it and brought it to them for inspection.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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My dealer replaced the turbo heat shield and timing chain tightener when I first bought it and brought it to them for inspection.
I'm sure he only performed the service bulletins for those two items. The "turbo heat shield" is just a small insulated clip for the oil feed line on top of the turbo. My dealer clipped the new heat shield to an already leaking fitting. Nice.

I wrapped my turbo in insulation and replaced the plastic grill opening with a metal one to allow better air flow. Still gets really hot, but I haven't seen any warping.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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Yep, common problem. Since you have an '09, after market warranty? If so, doubt it will be covered. I would start shopping..
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 06:14 AM
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Service bulletins like that are usually only covered under the base warranty. I ended up getting a black Notch styled scoop instead.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 11:48 AM
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Hood Scoop

Originally Posted by Grizld700
Service bulletins like that are usually only covered under the base warranty. I ended up getting a black Notch styled scoop instead.
Thanks, yeah, that's what I figured re: warranty, especially since the problem didn't show until after a couple of hot track days (that might or might not have happened!)

I appreciate hearing what folks have done. I think I actually just found that notched scoop last night: Below? Much less than a JCW CF, or painting and striping an OEM to match, and it looks like better venting.

I thought I'd do that, add the OEM heat shield and perhaps also the Sneed4speed ram air diverter. All less than $200!

I was told that a ram air intake would also shield the scoop from heat..but I'm not sure I want to go that route at this point.

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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 12:16 PM
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You could also look into the M7 Speed Vortex Scoop here as an option as well. Some good info about it at that link.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Boverphoto
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I was told that a ram air intake would also shield the scoop from heat..but I'm not sure I want to go that route at this point.

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The intakes that do a good job of blocking the heat is the AEM CAI, DDMWorks Race intake, and the M7 AGS-R CAI. IMO the AEM is best bang for buck. I used to run that (In fact I'm about ready to put this for sale on the marketplace) before I switched to the DoS Intake (discontinued) for more noise .

All 3 of those intakes have a funnel that goes from the scoop back to the intake. The M7 AGS-R is just way too much money IMO for an intake.

If you don't go for one of those intakes, then the air diverter is highly recommended.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Boverphoto
My '09 R56 MCS is starting to show a bit of warping of the hood scoop. I've searched and found a lot of references to this and lots of aftermarket turbo insulation options, and I found the 09/2009 TCSB changing the scoop from plastic to metal. I only found one reference to what the dealer did, however, and that was to allow an upgrade to carbon fiber JCS scoop by "paying the difference". I have a warranty to 2018, but is this a recall item? Can expect dealer to replace, paint and stripe a new scoop?
Any experiences?
My dealer replaced the turbo heat shield and timing chain tightener when I first bought it and brought it to them for inspection.
Thanks!
They will replace the factory scoop but , they might even replace the stripes. Nice they will let you change the scoop also. Make sure if you do get the new scoop non aftermarket you get the extra insulation.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...warping-2.html
 
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 02:21 PM
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I just replaced

my scoop because it failed while the dealership couldn't tell me what I should do...the heat and wind actually cracked it when the plastic rivet failed.

So now I also purchased that heat shield. But when I put those two plastic bolts on it really doesn't look that "Sturdy". As though it could blow off. Here is a photo...is this how it installs?

How the heat shield looks under my hood installed





looks kind of flimsy like the wind could rip it off
 

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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 08:26 AM
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Try to Remember if was suppose to go in the cavity but hook in between the hood scoop and the body: not set i the scoop itself.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...with-pics.html
 
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 08:55 AM
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So it goes between the scoop AND the body (or hood?) That would be way more stable.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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ah , I Remember its the scoop indent on the top of the scoop. Bottom side of those 3 pop inserts, tabs from the grille hold it up ( which your grille is gone. )
 
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 09:12 AM
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Dealer installed my shield N/C, here are pics. Stable, takes care of issue completely.
As I live in Oregon (wet) I was reluctant to go with a ram air intake but really seems like water in the scoop not a problem so that may be next.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 09:42 AM
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ah , I Remember its the scoop indent on the top of the scoop. Bottom side of those 3 pop inserts, tabs from the grille hold it up ( which your grille is gone. )
OH My grill is gone!
Former owner made some mods...
 
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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Is that grill insert available anywhere?

Originally Posted by ECSTuning
ah , I Remember its the scoop indent on the top of the scoop. Bottom side of those 3 pop inserts, tabs from the grille hold it up ( which your grille is gone. )

Is that grill insert available anywhere?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Wise
Is that grill insert available anywhere?
Right here: 51232752275

https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/51232752275/




We now have these in a lower cost aftermarket version. In stock. Linked above also.

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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 12:31 PM
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Nice! I'll order it. Does it have any mounting hardware? I wonder if mine is missing with the grill itself
 
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 01:02 PM
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Held in with 4 screws






If you are missing them , they are in the main hardware kit. 51132757697


You might need it anyway as people bust up the other clips on removal.

https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Sit...57697/ES77841/


 
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Originally Posted by Daniel Wise
I just replaced

my scoop because it failed while the dealership couldn't tell me what I should do...the heat and wind actually cracked it when the plastic rivet failed.

So now I also purchased that heat shield. But when I put those two plastic bolts on it really doesn't look that "Sturdy". As though it could blow off. Here is a photo...is this how it installs?

How the heat shield looks under my hood installed





looks kind of flimsy like the wind could rip it off
I just bought one of these without giving it much thought. I went out to my car and it has a factory bonnet insulator. Would the heat shield go over the insulation, or should I put it between the insulation and the bonnet? My gut feeling is the heat shield goes over the insulator to deflect heat from the insulator.

Never mind responding to this, I figured it out. I also had to modify the piece a little, snipped out the middle notch to make it wider.
 

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Old Jul 3, 2017 | 07:27 AM
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+1 ^ just had to mod it a little per application.
 
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Originally Posted by pokeyjoe
I'm sure he only performed the service bulletins for those two items. The "turbo heat shield" is just a small insulated clip for the oil feed line on top of the turbo. My dealer clipped the new heat shield to an already leaking fitting. Nice.

I wrapped my turbo in insulation and replaced the plastic grill opening with a metal one to allow better air flow. Still gets really hot, but I haven't seen any warping.
I've had a carbon fiber scoop on mine as an original purchase option due to this issue. That turbo get's hot and that clip shield is worthless. To better shield the scoop and oil feed lines I recommend a turbo wrap under the factory turbo shield. As a bonus you can throw away the clip on if you have a revised exhaust shield. It added shielding where my original did not have any. Anyway wrap the turbo and your issues are gone. Even after hours of driving I can place my hand on the factory shield and not get burned. WMW turbo wrap is what I have on mine.
 
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