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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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Camshaft position sensor location?

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I have been reading for a while, and finally decided to join.

I am looking for some assistance locating the camshaft position sensors on a 2011 Cooper (N16 engine)? Which one is "bank 1" and which one is "bank 2"? I'm currently getting a POO15 code (bank 1) and some random rough idle issues especially when cold. From what i have read the timing chain issues that plagued earlier versions of this engine are not common to the N16. Thanks for any help you can provide.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 11:28 AM
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From: Spokane, Wa. it's not near Seattle
I searched P0015 and got some results, the answer you're looking for may be in there.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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I tried searching, but could not find any info specific to my car.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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The camshaft position sensors are on the transmission side of the engine on the valve cover. You can get the Bosch part from the various parts sites for about half the price of the MINI branded part. The only difference is the box it comes in.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by adude007
The camshaft position sensors are on the transmission side of the engine on the valve cover. You can get the Bosch part from the various parts sites for about half the price of the MINI branded part. The only difference is the box it comes in.
Thank you for the reply.

It looks like they are right next to each other with one being closer to the firewall and one closer to the front of the vehicle. Any idea which one is "A" and which one is "b" or intake and exhaust?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmac
Thank you for the reply.

It looks like they are right next to each other with one being closer to the firewall and one closer to the front of the vehicle. Any idea which one is "A" and which one is "b" or intake and exhaust?
Well there is only one bank of cylinders in this car. Therefore if you see some description about bank 1 sensor A the bank part does not matter. The bank 1 refers to the row of cylinders that contains cylinder #1 on a "V" configuration engine. I believe that Sensor A is the intake side of things and B is the exhaust. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Not all vehicles use a two camshaft position sensors which is what makes this a little confusing because the codes that comes up is a generic P code. I believe that the R56 N12/N16 engine utilize them because both the intake and exhaust side have variable timing.

The camshaft sensor for the intake side is the one that is further back towards the firewall on the intake side of the engine. It sits over the intake side camshaft. Likewise the exhaust camshaft position sensor is towards the front of the vehicle on the exhaust side of things.

Edit: If you pull them out or replace them both there isnt a special sensor the exhaust or intake side the part is the exact same. Just make sure that you plug the correct connector on the the correct sensor. Use a piece of masking tape to label them or only do one at a time.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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Thanks again. Yeah, I got thrown off because I'm used to most 4cyl cars only having one sensor. Am I correct that the timing chain issues in previous versions have not manifested in the n16 engines?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 04:49 PM
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Thanks again. Yeah, I got thrown off because I'm used to most 4cyl cars only having one sensor. Am I correct that the timing chain issues in previous versions have not manifested in the n16 engines?
The timing chain issues were a bigger problem on s model cars. The base model did not generally have an issue unless it was run with low oil. Check your oil regularly and you should be fine.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 06:18 PM
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Good enough...I'll let you know how it works out.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 06:26 AM
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For the N16 engine the camshaft postion sensor is on top of the valve cover. #8. There are two of them. Bank one is the back side and bank two is the front side. Check to make sure they are plugged in all the way.




Same sensor for the front and rear section.

N16 engine ( look to then right )





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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 03:03 AM
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Thanks for the diagram. I replaced the sensors, and the car seems to be running much better. I also threw in a new set of plugs and an air filter as well. I did notice some seepage from the coolant temp sensor, but I understand this may be as simple as replacing the o-ring. Again thanks for the replies and assistance.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 05:38 PM
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Can anybody please post a picture of the second sensor. I read n found that one of them is by the top left toward the driver side n firewall but i dont /cant find the second one. 2010 mini cooper s. Thanks
 
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 07:06 AM
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For the Cooper S N14 Engine: Think you are talking about the vanos control solenoid, ?

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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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Thanks ecstunning,

But im trying to find where the second sensor like the one in post #10 the camshaft position sensor #2. I replaceed the top one on the valve cover. I bought mine at the dealer cuz i wanted to fix my car asap. N i asked n they told me it does take 2 CPS. But there were no help as too where the second one is located or getting me a diagram. Im more of a d.i.yer...rather not spend my $ on labor. Thanks
 
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