free camber in the rear?!

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Aug 18, 2013 | 06:38 AM
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okay so i'm going to be rotating my tires today and when i have the car up i want to add about 1 more degree of camber in the rear. I was told the mini is like the mk6 vw as there is a bolt that you can loosten, adjust camber and then tighten down again. I was told it won't do anything drastic just add a degree or two. does anyone know if this is true and if so is there a write up or a picture of some of the said processes? and is there any camber adjustment in the front? thanks in advance.
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Aug 18, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Not sure, look even the back there. Also end links are not that expensive and add a while lot more camber plus you have less likely chance of bending them over a stock pair.

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Aug 18, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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Part 13 is an eccentric nut that allows rear camber adjustment to some extent.

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...56&hg=33&fg=30

I wouldn't touch it if I were you. Adding a lot of front camber with camber plates, (-1.5 to -2.5 degrees) is much more beneficial to the MINI. If you just add more negative rear camber to the rear your car is going to understeer more. The ideal setup is to have -2.5 of front camber (some like even more), while having around -1.8 in the rear, which is pretty close to stock for the rear. You want to have the front be able to have maximum traction and bite during cornering and the rear should be allowed to not dig in as much. This facilitates rotation of the car. Toe settings are also very crucial for the front and rear for performance driving.

If this is just a street car, I wouldn't touch one friggin' thing.
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Aug 19, 2013 | 06:34 AM
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You can change the camber but you'll have to reset the toe which is a pain in the rear. And there is no way you'll get 2 degrees of change. Probably closer to .75. Why are you wanting more negative camber? Fitment or performance?
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Aug 19, 2013 | 07:48 AM
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Quote: You can change the camber but you'll have to reset the toe which is a pain in the rear. And there is no way you'll get 2 degrees of change. Probably closer to .75. Why are you wanting more negative camber? Fitment or performance?
fitment really. I want to bring my rear et to 20 and want to add just enough camber so i don't rub. I'm running 17x8 et30 Rotiforms and the front pokes a fair deal so want to bring the rear out to match.
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Aug 19, 2013 | 08:02 AM
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ugh... the stretch/poke/camber fad crap... Have fun eating tires and killing handling. :(
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Aug 19, 2013 | 08:18 AM
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Quote: ugh... the stretch/poke/camber fad crap... Have fun eating tires and killing handling. :(
To each their own man. I still have fun throwing my car around corners. I drive it daily. I don't take it to a track daily so i'm going to make my car look good and i enjoy driving it. As of right now I have zero camber wear so i might keep it the way it is. just throwing around options
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Aug 19, 2013 | 08:34 AM
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Quote: fitment really. I want to bring my rear et to 20 and want to add just enough camber so i don't rub. I'm running 17x8 et30 Rotiforms and the front pokes a fair deal so want to bring the rear out to match.
Yikes. What size tires are you running? These cars gain negative camber as you lower so if you're looking for negative camber in the rear it's usually not hard to come by. We run 235s with only about -1.5 degrees in the rear but we're not all that low. If you're running something like a 195/205 you should be able to get it to fit.
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Aug 19, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Quote: Yikes. What size tires are you running? These cars gain negative camber as you lower so if you're looking for negative camber in the rear it's usually not hard to come by. We run 235s with only about -1.5 degrees in the rear but we're not all that low. If you're running something like a 195/205 you should be able to get it to fit.
I'm running 205/40 all around. But i'm also running 23" fender to ground in the front and 23.5" in the rear.
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Aug 19, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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Quote: To each their own man. I still have fun throwing my car around corners. I drive it daily. I don't take it to a track daily so i'm going to make my car look good and i enjoy driving it. As of right now I have zero camber wear so i might keep it the way it is. just throwing around options
You should pick what you want to do. Do a "stance" style or set up your car for performance. A stance car will never be able to perform on track. You'll be worrying about rubbing and your camber and alignment settings are totally different for the two. I think the rotaform stanced look is cool on the MINI, but I would never bring that same suspension and wheel setup on a road course. It will perform badly.
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Aug 19, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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Quote: You should pick what you want to do. Do a "stance" style or set up your car for performance. A stance car will never be able to perform on track. You'll be worrying about rubbing and your camber and alignment settings are totally different for the two. I think the rotaform stanced look is cool on the MINI, but I would never bring that same suspension and wheel setup on a road course. It will perform badly.
Agreed
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Aug 19, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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Quote: To each their own man. I still have fun throwing my car around corners. I drive it daily. I don't take it to a track daily so i'm going to make my car look good and i enjoy driving it. As of right now I have zero camber wear so i might keep it the way it is. just throwing around options
Get it done right. Take it to an to get an alignment and have them add the camber you want.

If you don't, the next thread you'll be posting is, why are my tires worn out in 2000 miles? The increase in camber normally adds 1-1.5 times that amount of toe, generally speaking. You'll end up having horrible cross scrubbing problems.
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Aug 20, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Quote: Get it done right. Take it to an to get an alignment and have them add the camber you want.

If you don't, the next thread you'll be posting is, why are my tires worn out in 2000 miles? The increase in camber normally adds 1-1.5 times that amount of toe, generally speaking. You'll end up having horrible cross scrubbing problems.
This is what's keeping me from doing it myself. I don't want to mess with toe at all. ill probably leave it the way it is.
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