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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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I have been doing DE's for 16 years with the Porsche Club of America. I have decided to take the Cooper S to Watkins Glen in October. So I have a few questions as to what guys are using at the track?

What brake fluid seems to give the best performance at he track for Mini's?
I have been using Motul and Super Blue.

What brake pads? I like the Pagid yellows. What are the most common for the Cooper?

I also need to mount a fire extinguisher. Does anyone make a seat mount for the stock seats in a 2008 S.

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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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Brake fluid is simple Motul 660, don't use the superblue we've had problems with it many times.

Pads Carbotech track pads,
 
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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I have EBC redstuff pads with Powerslot slotted rotors and that works pretty well for me.
 
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Brake fluid is simple Motul 660, don't use the superblue we've had problems with it many times.

Pads Carbotech track pads,
This is my setup with R compound tires, and I love it. Absolutely no brake fade all day long!
 
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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I just got done with 2 days at WGI. I will be switching to the Motul. Had problems with the ATE Amber (same as the super blue). As for the brake pads I had Carbotech XP10s on all 4, great control. Some people like XP10s up front and XP8s in the rear. I found that didn't work well for me as there was too much bite in the back.

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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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I have EBC redstuff pads with Powerslot slotted rotors and that works pretty well for me.
EBC reds are not for the experienced track person.

Carbo XP 12 at least is the way to go.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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EBC reds are not for the experienced track person.

Carbo XP 12 at least is the way to go.
An den?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Porthos
An den?
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 04:13 AM
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Op, if my memory is correct, brey Krause makes an underseat fire extinguisher mount for the Mini.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 04:58 AM
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+1 for Motul on the track. Super Blue was OK, but once I started to get a lot better on track I boiled it. Do that once and it's easy to spend the extra bucks on higher temp rated fluid!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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Thanks for all the help. I ordered the Motul fluid today. Called Paul at Rennline and ordered a fire extinguisher mount. Just need to make a decision on brake pads.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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If you ever got StopTech BBK, just the Street Perf pads are fine for the track. A friend of mine went through his HPS+ pads at the end of the day, while my pads and rotors are still chugging along w/ no to minimal fade.

Save up! :D
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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I would get the Carbotech XP10s. They can take the heat and are kind to the rotors. A good match for the MINI. I got mine from Way.

I would remove the dust shield from the front brakes for more cooling. Also, you should do the "free" camber change.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ustment-4.html
See post #94

If you do this, you will need to adjust the toe in. I found about 3 flats (~1/2) turn in on the tie rod adjusters will give you just a little toe-in.
 

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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Do you run the Motul 660 all the time even when off track? how often would you swap it? my mini is also my DD so id be swapping pads before the track and id hate to have to swap fluid too.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Just run the Motul full-time. Change it out every other year of street driving, same as any brake fluid. If you hit the track regularly, you'll want to change it more often than that.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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Yes run it on track and off. But you should change brake fluid for the track every 90 days or do. I usually have a last brake fluid change of the year around July or August and leave the track brake fluid till the next year, changing it just before the track season sometime in April. That gives me three brake fluid changes a year. I am in the NE so the track season is short.
 
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Originally Posted by Liqudus
Do you run the Motul 660 all the time even when off track? how often would you swap it? my mini is also my DD so id be swapping pads before the track and id hate to have to swap fluid too.
I even run my track pads on the street, but I don't drive much as I walk to work.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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I run the Motul all the time. I change it a least once a year. If I am doing alot of track events then I usually change it about every six track days. I change my brake pads back to street pad before I leave the track. On the Porsche, I can change pads in about 5 minutes. I will be learning how fast I change the mini pads in the next few weeks.
 
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Originally Posted by HerboS
I run the Motul all the time. I change it a least once a year. If I am doing alot of track events then I usually change it about every six track days. I change my brake pads back to street pad before I leave the track. On the Porsche, I can change pads in about 5 minutes. I will be learning how fast I change the mini pads in the next few weeks.
I find that the easiest way to change pads on my MINI (front) is to take out the two bolts on the back of the steering knuckle and lift the retainer, pads and calipers all as one piece. This way the sliders don't get messed up. The piston can be pushed in with Harbor Freight tool, but the push plate will need to be slotted to fit down over the tool.
 
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Originally Posted by Liqudus
Do you run the Motul 660 all the time even when off track? how often would you swap it? my mini is also my DD so id be swapping pads before the track and id hate to have to swap fluid too.
You can run the motul on the street and track no problem. Most track groups require that you change your brake fluid within the last 6 months, so keep that in mind.
 
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