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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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what fluid evacuator do you use for oil change?

please recommend the brand and the price and website.

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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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It's called a fluid extractor. I think I spent around $60 for mine around four years ago. It might have been on sale. They now show them for $89. Run GRIOT'S GARAGE FLUID EXTRACTOR on google and the page will pop right up. If you're feeling thrifty, LOOK at the Griot's unit, then go to ebay and run FLUID EXTRACTOR; see if you can find a deal. Griot's buys these from another company and puts their name on it. You can find it elsewhere. My unit came with a couple different size hoses to fit different vehicles.
You are going to have a bunch of naysayers pop up here, and they're welcome to their opinion. The gravity method works fine, too. Me, I find the thing incredibly convenient and easy to use. Two tips: you only want your oil WARM, not hot! Read the instructions. The Mini doesn't take long to get oil to WARM, and it's natural viscosity is thin enough that it draws right out. When you get to the end, move the hose around. I found that jacking up my driver's side helped, as it was easy to get the curved tube to go right over to the opposite side of the pan.
The second time I used this unit, I pulled the drain plug and about two tablespoons of oil came out. I particularly like the unit with the Mini, because I had to get the car about six extra inches off the ground to get my oil pan to get reasonably clear of the Mini's oil pan.
BTW, I put in a magnetic oil plug (put them in my tranny, too) from a firm called DIMPLE in the Mini at the last oil change. I figure to pull it after two oil changes and see what it looks like. I've been happy with these big magnet units in my BMW motorcycles.
But have fun with the extractor. I've been happy with mine. Some people will say it's more equipment to have around when gravity works fine, some will say it doesn't get every last DROP...I still like it.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Do it right and drain from the pan when the oil is warm!
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Do it right and drain from the pan when the oil is warm!
I use a Mityvac 7201. I can extract more oil out of the oil pan using my extractor than by pulling the plug.

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...37&hg=11&fg=10

Above is a diagram of the oil pan on a R56. The nut welded in the pan to receive the drain plug is 15mm tall. This arrangement leaves a puddle of oil 15mm in height laying in the bottom of the oil pan. When using an extractor the extraction tube enters the dipstick tube, which passes through the timing chain guide, and ends up on the bottom of the pan.

I've drained the oil by removing the oil drain plug and was still able to extract oil from the pan with my extractor.

That being said, if I only had 1 MINI to service I'd see no need to run out and buy an extractor just for it. Mine is used frequently to remove transmission fluid, power steering fluid, and evacuate differentials and transfer cases. My Mityvac payed for itself years ago and If I couldn't rebuild it I'd buy another.

Pre-2007 Smart vehicles don't even have a drain plug. I have to use an extractor on those.
 

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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Top Sider. Works fantastic. I can drain my oil in five minutes and not get my hands dirty, well almost not dirty. Will never do the gravity method again. Could there be other uses for the extractor? Maybe suck water out of a pluged drain before removing a P-trap?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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I use gravity as well.

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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Do you think capacity 3quarts are enough?
http://www.liquivac.com/buyonline
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I use a Mityvac 7201. I can extract more oil out of the oil pan using my extractor than by pulling the plug.

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...37&hg=11&fg=10

Above is a diagram of the oil pan on a R56. The nut welded in the pan to receive the drain plug is 15mm tall. This arrangement leaves a puddle of oil 15mm in height laying in the bottom of the oil pan. When using an extractor the extraction tube enters the dipstick tube, which passes through the timing chain guide, and ends up on the bottom of the pan.

I've drained the oil by removing the oil drain plug and was still able to extract oil from the pan with my extractor.

That being said, if I only had 1 MINI to service I'd see no need to run out and buy an extractor just for it. Mine is used frequently to remove transmission fluid, power steering fluid, and evacuate differentials and transfer cases. My Mityvac payed for itself years ago and If I couldn't rebuild it I'd buy another.

Pre-2007 Smart vehicles don't even have a drain plug. I have to use an extractor on those.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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No. The MINI holds about 4.5 qts.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by yyj3869
Do you think capacity 3quarts are enough?
http://www.liquivac.com/buyonline
No. I pull out nearly 5 quarts. If you have it already then you'll just have to extract twice is all. If you want that extractor because it's cheap then save up for a larger size. I would go for a Pela 6000 or Mityvac 7201 at a minimum. Other units migh be good as well but I don't have any hands on with any other ones. The 7201 has a valve that you move to turn your extractor into a pump and is handy.

Regardless of which method you use I suggest getting familiar with the underside of the MINI while the oil is draining/extracting. Working on German/English/Italian/French engineered vehicles is really simple as long as you follow a certain process of repairing things. The absolute best suggestion I can offer in general is to buy a Bentley manual or BMW TIS before you mess with an extractor. If you're local to me you can swing by and I'll help you do it.
 
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