R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+) MINI Cooper and Cooper S (R56) hatchback discussion.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

R56 BMW/Mini Service Feedback - Was I bad?

Old Aug 17, 2011 | 07:33 PM
  #1  
Benibiker's Avatar
Benibiker
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,283
Likes: 37
From: Honolulu Hawaii
BMW/Mini Service Feedback - Was I bad?

Was I bad for being honest and rating my recent BMW/Mini service visit as a 6 (average) out of 10?
Had one of my rear tires replaced because it was damaged by a screw and although the tire replacement itself was fine, other details sucked. As I was driving home my hood was bouncing up and down, had to pull over only to find the hood not fully closed. Also on the way home I could hear something rattling in the back and come to find the cargo netting back in boot all loose and the jack cover just thrown back there. As I secured all that stuff I found my lug nut key missing and had to go back the next morning to pick it up. They "washed" my car and it basically looked like they took a muddy rag to it. It was all smeared, water spots everywhere and just half the roof "washed". The survey asked if they met or exceeded all my expectations... Uh, no, not even close. This lack of attention to detail left me wondering if they tightened the lug nuts correctly, if they really checked the fluids and really did the other 20 or so inspections they say they did. I did pay $475 for the tire replacement by the way. Every visit to this place turns to 2 or 3 visits because I always have to go back to get something they forgot, get something repaired they damaged, or get the part they ordered for me reordered because they accidentally sold it. Heck, my Jeep service dept does 150% better than this place. So again I ask, was I bad for giving them a 6 rating?
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 07:38 PM
  #2  
wandrur's Avatar
wandrur
Moderator
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,899
Likes: 2
From: Fredericksburg, VA
Not at all. You received 6/10 (at best) service, and that's exactly what you should have reported.

Sucks that you got hosed on the 'service' part of customer service.
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 08:43 PM
  #3  
KevinC's Avatar
KevinC
5th Gear
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 952
Likes: 7
From: Chandler, AZ
$475 for a tire? Obviously a run-flat. You could have gotten a whole SET of far-better conventional tires for less than that. Sheesh.
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 08:45 PM
  #4  
PatM's Avatar
PatM
6th Gear
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,194
Likes: 2
From: Washington
I woud have given them far less than that. You were generous in my opinion.
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 08:50 PM
  #5  
ACEkraut11's Avatar
ACEkraut11
6th Gear
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,559
Likes: 6
From: Durham, Maine
Sounds like you were nice, not bad. You describe a pattern that should be taken to the next level. Time to call the service manager and let them know what type of service you have NOT been getting. In the long run, you are doing them a favor since I suspect you are not the only one who is probably receiving that type of service.
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 09:39 PM
  #6  
Project Mangler's Avatar
Project Mangler
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
From: Corvallis, Oregon
I wouldn't be surprised if you got a call from them asking why you rated them so low. Be polite but don't sugar coat it, they need to get their act together.
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 10:05 PM
  #7  
pmini's Avatar
pmini
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
From: South Florida
+1

Rating was too high for all you went through, specially since it's happened before. I think you should take it to a higher level.
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 05:02 AM
  #8  
yetti96's Avatar
yetti96
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,031
Likes: 6
From: Ave Maria, FL
Knowing that part of the SM's pay is based on the numbers it sucks for him but those few things do need to be addressed. The tech who worked on it and didn't put stuff back, the car wash kid who doesn't care...these things are noticeable and evident to owners and should be to those work on the car too.
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 07:04 AM
  #9  
Minibeagle's Avatar
Minibeagle
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,113
Likes: 76
From: New Brunswick, CANADA
Ya did good Benibiker. I would have given them no more than a five. I would also have politely spoken to the service manager. Key being politely.
 

Last edited by Minibeagle; Aug 18, 2011 at 08:24 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 07:15 AM
  #10  
MiamiGuitarMan's Avatar
MiamiGuitarMan
4th Gear
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 483
Likes: 2
From: Miami, FL
I think you rated them way too high!!
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 08:31 AM
  #11  
quikmni's Avatar
quikmni
6th Gear
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,486
Likes: 7
From: Orcutt, CA
I also think you rated them too high.
My experience is that the low rating will not change anything at the dealer.
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 10:37 AM
  #12  
PatM's Avatar
PatM
6th Gear
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,194
Likes: 2
From: Washington
Change starts at the top. If you don't have upper management buying onto good service nothing will change. This could be just one of those poorly run dealerships. But eventually MINI will see and hear and when it comes time to renew the Dealership then it could make a difference. Short term probably not.
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 05:21 PM
  #13  
NoHoR56's Avatar
NoHoR56
2nd Gear
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
I have to preface this by saying my experience is with BMW - I'm new to MINI - but if the premise of the rating is the same...

I've owned and serviced one BMW product or another since 1994. My first service experience was not a good one. I was honest on the survey and hammered them. My service advisor - who I later learned was one of the most liked in Southern California was totally freaked out. (Completely professional/nice to me but treated it like a VERY big deal.) He explained how the whole thing works internally at BMW. That the surveys go directly to the national office and EVERYTHING from car allotments, to bonuses, hinge on these things. Having a bad rating dings he dealership for sure. However, he impressed upon me the importance of creating a relationship with the advisor and dealer, complaining to him directly to make sure I'm satisfied, then the service manager, and then survey/national. They are motivated to make you happy. If you take it directly to the survey you've technically gone over everybody's head and it's (I'm interpreting at this point) less effective than playing the game with the survey, knowing you can always take it higher, rather than doing it immediately. Ever since, I have always had good experiences giving them top grades on the survey but communicating my problems directly with the advisor, and then with the service manager. In 17 years I never had to escalate to the national office over a service issue. (Car/warranty stuff - but different story.)

I know it sounds like a game - because it is - but you might get better results that way. Start local then work your way up on complaints. Otherwise, you've already hammered them - played all your cards - and there's really not much further to go. I'd rather keep these people friendly and on my side.

If MINI is completely different than BMW, never mind.
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:01 PM
  #14  
Benibiker's Avatar
Benibiker
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,283
Likes: 37
From: Honolulu Hawaii
Thanks guys, I agree with everything you all said. After reviewing the grade I gave them and seeing how I've gone through this before, I was actually pretty nice to them. I did write an email to the Service Manager explaining what happened and how its happened before, this was before I did the survey. A week later nothing, no phone calls, no reply, nada. That says it all right there.
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:06 PM
  #15  
NoHoR56's Avatar
NoHoR56
2nd Gear
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
If that's the way the service manager is behaving I would have serious concerns about that dealership. They're supposed to be in the "big picture" business. Your only consolation: you live in Hawaii. ;-)
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:58 PM
  #16  
Benibiker's Avatar
Benibiker
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,283
Likes: 37
From: Honolulu Hawaii
Originally Posted by NoHoR56
If that's the way the service manager is behaving I would have serious concerns about that dealership. They're supposed to be in the "big picture" business. Your only consolation: you live in Hawaii. ;-)
Unfortunately this dealership is the only show in town (on the island) so I may have to endure more torture or just be done with the brand and get something else...
 
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2011 | 01:42 PM
  #17  
DChap's Avatar
DChap
5th Gear
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,036
Likes: 0
From: Delaware
The last survey I filled out for Mini, I gave them a 1. And before you say it, yes they deserved it.
 
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2011 | 01:57 PM
  #18  
Digitys's Avatar
Digitys
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 194
Likes: 1
From: Northern Virginia/Boston
Mini of Sterling in Northern Virginia....

I feel the same way about Mini/BMW of Sterling here in Virginia. I have only been there for two issues so far, but each time I had to go back multiple times. Twice for the first thing and three times for the second issue. No attention to detail (the little detail they needed to look out for) or were they actually able to resolve the problem the first time.

Both dealers I used to work with in Boston were fantastic each time, most of the time exceeding my expectations with the little things like the car wash and vaccuming. Not so much down here. Someone must care about their job at that place, right? I guess it is possible no one does!
 
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2011 | 10:54 AM
  #19  
Benibiker's Avatar
Benibiker
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,283
Likes: 37
From: Honolulu Hawaii
Update... No one ever returned my emails or phone calls. I thought some day I would move up to a BMW vehicle but this squashed that idea...
 

Last edited by Benibiker; Sep 19, 2011 at 10:50 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2011 | 12:08 PM
  #20  
bakesonaplane's Avatar
bakesonaplane
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
From: Round on the ends and HI in the Middle
There's always good and bad dealerships. Very unfortunate that the only one available to you seems to be a bad one. What's worse, is it's determining your choice or beliefs of a car brand because of a couple bad employees at the dealership. I'm sorry to hear about your experience with them, but I think you were generous with a 6.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Teh
Drivetrain (Cooper S)
23
Aug 22, 2022 04:37 AM
woodstudio
General MINI Talk
22
Mar 15, 2020 08:28 AM
devicemanager
MINI Parts for Sale
13
Jun 17, 2016 06:18 PM
Miata13
Tires, Wheels, & Brakes
5
Sep 12, 2015 04:18 AM
bc219
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
13
Aug 10, 2015 11:22 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:54 PM.