R50/53 skipping gears
skipping gears
Last night I was driving on a 3-lane road with a 55 mph speed limit and traffic lights. I found myself coming off the line, revving the engine a lot in 1st, going right to 3rd, revving, and then to 5th. Sometimes I went 2-4-5, if I did not come to a complete stop before.
I did not think there was anything bad about this -- certainly the car did not complain -- but I co-worker heard it might be bad for the synchros since they have to negotiate a wider range of rpms than they normally would of you used every gear.
Any mechanics out there know the truth about this?
I did not think there was anything bad about this -- certainly the car did not complain -- but I co-worker heard it might be bad for the synchros since they have to negotiate a wider range of rpms than they normally would of you used every gear.
Any mechanics out there know the truth about this?
I have heard of problems with fwd transmissions and skipping gears causing premature wear on the synchros. While I don't know if it's true with MINI, but I do know it's not recommended on the Ford MTX-75 manual found in the Contour and Focus....
That being said, I don't skip gears in the MCS.
That being said, I don't skip gears in the MCS.
I skip gears in my MCS all the time, but only during relaxed driving.
I've noticed w/ the close ratio 6spd that RPM drop about 400rpm on a usual upshift. That being said... I never skipped gears on my 325 or 330i... 5spds.
I've noticed w/ the close ratio 6spd that RPM drop about 400rpm on a usual upshift. That being said... I never skipped gears on my 325 or 330i... 5spds.
I rarely skip gear when going from N>1st>2nd>..., but always in the reverse order, e.g. 5th>4th>2nd>N, before stop. Any difference?
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Originally Posted by fs-mini
I rarely skip gear when going from N>1st>2nd>..., but always in the reverse order, e.g. 5th>4th>2nd>N, before stop. Any difference?
Honestly, my dad has been driving sticks most of his life and he downshifts nearly every gear (without double clutching or heel-toeing) and has never had a problem with the clutch or tranny. On the street, the MINI should be fine with any style as long as it's not abusive.
Just let the revs drop, wouldn't hurt a thing as long as the RPM match when the clutch is engaged.
To minimize syncro wear, keep egg shell (light!) pressure on the shifter at all times, never force the stick into gear.
To minimize syncro wear, keep egg shell (light!) pressure on the shifter at all times, never force the stick into gear.
It's nice to see this thread. I've been wondering the same thing myself. I've owned many manual trans sports cars: all 4 speeds, a few with overdrive. I almost never skipped gears in those cars, but find myself doing it often in my MCS. I think part of it is because the gears are much closer together (and there's more of them!) on the MINI, and part of it is that the MINI has quite a bit more torque than the MGs, Spitfires, and (gasp) Renaults that I've owned in the past.
I typically accelerate through the gears up to cruising speed, and then skip one. For instance, on the major road near my home, with a 50 mph speed limit, I'll often go 1-2-3--5. That sort of thing.
Feels right, and doesn't seem to hurt anything. As someone else suggested, this is all done at a leisurely pace, and the synchros probably have plenty of time to catch up. If I were in a hurry, I wouldn't be skipping gears in the first place.
I typically accelerate through the gears up to cruising speed, and then skip one. For instance, on the major road near my home, with a 50 mph speed limit, I'll often go 1-2-3--5. That sort of thing.
Feels right, and doesn't seem to hurt anything. As someone else suggested, this is all done at a leisurely pace, and the synchros probably have plenty of time to catch up. If I were in a hurry, I wouldn't be skipping gears in the first place.
I agree that skipping gears is the way to go. I do the 1-3-6 or the 1-2-4-6 depending on the speed of traffic. Having a S with extra torque helps. I remember in high school my friend had a 351 Clevland in his Mustang and he could go through all four gears with out any gas, talk about torque. I havent tried in my 428 CJ yet, maybe tomorrow for fun.
I skip gears once in a while, and when I slow down, I will go into neutral at certain points, then shift down into whatever "feels" right. Have not ground the gears doing that and my clutch is just fine, too.
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Originally Posted by YYC
! But that was before owning the car....
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