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Old 06-09-2019, 07:00 PM
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R53 oil leak?

Ok I thought I had the same ol oil leaks that these cars are notorious for ( crank sensor o-ring, valve cover and oil pan gasket) which all have been replaced recently but still spots on the drive so back under the car I go. The last gasket I replaced was the oil pan and was last weekend and while the pan was down I cleaned everything very through but noticed an opening to the transmission. I sprayed brake cleaner and had lots of grime flowing out of it and was really hoping the rear main seal isn’t leaking. Well like I say I still have spots on the driveway and the very lowest bolt head has the oil on it right where the engine and trans bolt together so is it most likely the rear main seal? That will b a huge job since the trans has to come out but I read on here that if you have a failed rear main seal your clutch would slip which it does not. Ideas??
 
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Ok I thought I had the same ol oil leaks that these cars are notorious for ( crank sensor o-ring, valve cover and oil pan gasket) which all have been replaced recently but still spots on the drive so back under the car I go. The last gasket I replaced was the oil pan and was last weekend and while the pan was down I cleaned everything very through but noticed an opening to the transmission. I sprayed brake cleaner and had lots of grime flowing out of it and was really hoping the rear main seal isn’t leaking. Well like I say I still have spots on the driveway and the very lowest bolt head has the oil on it right where the engine and trans bolt together so is it most likely the rear main seal? That will b a huge job since the trans has to come out but I read on here that if you have a failed rear main seal your clutch would slip which it does not. Ideas??
Oil Cooler gaskets
Oil Filter gasket
Dip Stick O-ring
Timing Chain Guide O-rings
Front Main Seal

Yeah, these cars leak like they have Swiss cheese for gaskets. May the Force be with you....
 
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Originally Posted by gumbedamit
Oil Cooler gaskets
Oil Filter gasket
Dip Stick O-ring
Timing Chain Guide O-rings
Front Main Seal

Yeah, these cars leak like they have Swiss cheese for gaskets. May the Force be with you....
Lol all of those items are fine just concerned where the block meets the trans
 
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Clean everything well and the run it. Get under and look for where the highest set spot is. Your leak will originate somewhere in that area. I don’t agree that they leak like Swiss cheese. I have 81000 miles and no leaks other than the power steering low pressure hose that leaked at the tank. Fixed that with a screw hose clamp.
 
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Good thing about being here, Everyone is entitled to their own opinion; However, These cars are NOTORIOUS for leaking, count yourself lucky if you've not experienced this problem.... thus the reason the OP is asking the question after all the other PROBLEM spots have been taken care of
 
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Good thing about being here, Everyone is entitled to their own opinion; However, These cars are NOTORIOUS for leaking, count yourself lucky if you've not experienced this problem.... thus the reason the OP is asking the question after all the other PROBLEM spots have been taken care of
[size=3] Everyone has different experiences. I’m sure I’m not the only person who has not had leaks. Some do and some don’t. Maybe the only people we hear from are primarily those who have issues. If you don’t have problems you are less likely to comment on here.[/size]
 
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Originally Posted by Tgriffithjr
[size=3] Everyone has different experiences. I’m sure I’m not the only person who has not had leaks. Some do and some don’t. Maybe the only people we hear from are primarily those who have issues. If you don’t have problems you are less likely to comment on here.[/size]
Yep very true
 
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Yep very true
Not saying that everyone has leaks, stating that these cars are Notorious for their leaks. Just like the PS pumps on these cars are problematic, I've not had this problem, but it still exists. As popular as NAM is, I'm certain that not Every One that owns a Mini is a member. Nothing is absolute Denying a known problem doesn't make it go away. Good luck with figuring out what your leak is.
 
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Well I found out where the oil leak is coming from and it's not oil but trans oil. It's leaking from the clutch release rod bushing but now will have to figure out how to replace it. I will post a different topic for that.
 
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...I sprayed brake cleaner and had lots of grime flowing out of it and was really hoping the rear main seal isn’t leaking
The grime was at least in part the dust from the clutch and flywheel. When I changed out my clutch the interior of the bell housing was coated with a black soot. Your brake cleaner liberated that soot. I took pictures when I changed out the clutch on my Mini, if I can find them I'll post them this evening.

Based on your other posts you might still have an oil leak from the rear main seal or the front transmission seal.
 
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Even a badly rear main seal will unlikely cause the clutch to slip. The oil is blocked by the front of the flywheel and centrifugal force will fling the oil onto the bell housing then leak out via the "drain hole". The remaining coating on the bell housing help clean the dust off the environment like how K&N filter works.

You symptom is consistent a harden thus leaking rear main seal. What is th mileage of the engine?

All ICE engine leak oil sooner or later. Typically proportional to the milage of the engine. Think cumulative heat and time - like the area under the temperature time curve of the engine parts.
 
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Even a badly rear main seal will unlikely cause the clutch to slip. The oil is blocked by the front of the flywheel and centrifugal force will fling the oil onto the bell housing then leak out via the "drain hole". The remaining coating on the bell housing help clean the dust off the environment like how K&N filter works.

You symptom is consistent a harden thus leaking rear main seal. What is th mileage of the engine?

All ICE engine leak oil sooner or later. Typically proportional to the milage of the engine. Think cumulative heat and time - like the area under the temperature time curve of the engine parts.
Car has 136k on it. I was looking at pictures last night on how to replace that bushing and I gathered there is no oil or fluids in that area. Sorry never had one apart. So are you saying the flywheel is flinging oil from the rear main up to the bushing and leaking out of it then?
 
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I cannot debug your problem remotely for you. I am just giving you some fruits for thought. Successful diagnose ultimately depends on you.
 
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Old 06-19-2019, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pnwR53S
I cannot debug your problem remotely for you. I am just giving you some fruits for thought. Successful diagnose ultimately depends on you.
Sure I understand and greatly appreciate any thoughts or options that is why I come here.
 
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Got pics of the leak?
 
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Got pics of the leak?
I will get some.
 
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Originally Posted by ECSTuning
Ok thanks
No thank you I appreciate your concern
 
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