R50/53 JCW Resonator delete in MA. Will it pass?
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JCW Resonator delete in MA. Will it pass?
I am considering removing the resonator on my 2006 JCW. Has anyone in MA done this and still been able to pass our fascist safety inspections? I am curious how much louder it is in general where it would draw attention. The only videos I can find are the "after" there is no comparison to help understand how much louder it is.
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The MA law is written in a generic fashion like most states...
"No person shall operate a motor vehicle, nor shall any owner of such vehicle permit it to be operated upon any way, except fire department and fire patrol apparatus, unless such motor vehicle is equipped with a muffler to prevent excessive or unnecessary noise, which muffler is in good working order and in constant operation, and complies with such minimum standards for construction and performance as the registrar may prescribe. No person shall use a muffler cut-out or by-pass. No person shall operate a motor vehicle on any way which motor vehicle is equipped (1) with a muffler from which the baffle plates, screens or other original internal parts have been removed and not replaced; or (2) with an exhaust system which has been modified in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the exhaust."
Pennsylvania has the same provision.
"The exhaust system of a vehicle may not be modified in a manner which will amplify or increase noise emitted by the motor of a vehicle..."
I think you need to find some new mechanics, I've never once failed inspection for exhaust noise on any car I've ever owned.
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The big gotcha is the "cannot be modified in any way." If a shop "thinks" there may be a modification I have had them either fail or let me know they are going to fail and that they would rather not inspect. Independent shops are always worried about getting caught passing modified vehicles and losing their ability to do inspections. Especially lately the state has added in stricter rules and actually record video of the inspection to see if there is anything shady going on.
My main question is would a removed resonator immediately throw up the red flag to an inspector? Is it loud enough over the regular JCW at low RPMS where they would immediately question modifications? I really wish the state had an objective way to determine what is ok and what is not. For example a decibel level that is the legal volume etc.
My main question is would a removed resonator immediately throw up the red flag to an inspector? Is it loud enough over the regular JCW at low RPMS where they would immediately question modifications? I really wish the state had an objective way to determine what is ok and what is not. For example a decibel level that is the legal volume etc.
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The big gotcha is the "cannot be modified in any way." If a shop "thinks" there may be a modification I have had them either fail or let me know they are going to fail and that they would rather not inspect. Independent shops are always worried about getting caught passing modified vehicles and losing their ability to do inspections. Especially lately the state has added in stricter rules and actually record video of the inspection to see if there is anything shady going on.
You can't expect the crooks to operate in a way that is reasonable or responsible to their constituents. That is just silly.
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My main question is would a removed resonator immediately throw up the red flag to an inspector? Is it loud enough over the regular JCW at low RPMS where they would immediately question modifications? I really wish the state had an objective way to determine what is ok and what is not. For example a decibel level that is the legal volume etc.
Re decibel levels, be very careful what you wish for. Massachusetts has defined it for motorcycles and it is very strict:
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/Gener...er90/Section7U
The current law gives you considerably more wiggle room for your MINI than I get for my motorcycle.
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Re decibel levels, be very careful what you wish for. Massachusetts has defined it for motorcycles and it is very strict:
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/Gener...er90/Section7U
The current law gives you considerably more wiggle room for your MINI than I get for my motorcycle.
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/Gener...er90/Section7U
The current law gives you considerably more wiggle room for your MINI than I get for my motorcycle.
In PA most people don't even bother with motorcycle inspection because there is no enforcement. I've been pulled over for flipping my visor up at night and forgetting to put it back down, not even a mention of my bikes lack of inspection. Even if you do get your bike inspected, they don't even start the bike. It's strictly safety equipment inspection here. I live close to the Harley plant here, if you started enforcing motorcycle noise restrictions, you might have a revolution on your hands.
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As far as the motorcycle inspections go, for MA it is a joke. The shops doing inspections, at least in my experience do a quick look for anything inherently unsafe and then move along, I have heard of friends that got busted for not having reflectors or something minor. I do regularly see straight pipe Harleys on the road with valid inspections stickers.
When it comes to cars, it is a different story. I think shops err on the side of caution when it comes to passing something borderline. I have a Scion that is running a TRD axle back exhaust, something that can be purchased at the dealership and installed before vehicle delivery. Barely louder than stock yet I get hassled be various shops every year. It some cases they slap a Reject sticker on the vehicle, which makes it where you have to replace it with stock or it will never pass. The only place I have found that will pass it with no question is the dealership I bought the car from. I guess it makes sense that they wouldn't fail a car based on parts that they have sitting over in their parts department for sale. I do regularly see cars much louder than mine driving around with legitimate inspection stickers. I guess it is a case of knowing someone willing to take a chance that you are not planted by the MA DMV to catch shady inspection stations.
If anyone has specific before/after videos I would appreciate it. Or I can take the plunge and then try to find a shade-tree way to quiet it down in the event that I need to for inspection.
When it comes to cars, it is a different story. I think shops err on the side of caution when it comes to passing something borderline. I have a Scion that is running a TRD axle back exhaust, something that can be purchased at the dealership and installed before vehicle delivery. Barely louder than stock yet I get hassled be various shops every year. It some cases they slap a Reject sticker on the vehicle, which makes it where you have to replace it with stock or it will never pass. The only place I have found that will pass it with no question is the dealership I bought the car from. I guess it makes sense that they wouldn't fail a car based on parts that they have sitting over in their parts department for sale. I do regularly see cars much louder than mine driving around with legitimate inspection stickers. I guess it is a case of knowing someone willing to take a chance that you are not planted by the MA DMV to catch shady inspection stations.
If anyone has specific before/after videos I would appreciate it. Or I can take the plunge and then try to find a shade-tree way to quiet it down in the event that I need to for inspection.
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As far as the motorcycle inspections go, for MA it is a joke. The shops doing inspections, at least in my experience do a quick look for anything inherently unsafe and then move along, I have heard of friends that got busted for not having reflectors or something minor. I do regularly see straight pipe Harleys on the road with valid inspections stickers.
When it comes to cars, it is a different story. I think shops err on the side of caution when it comes to passing something borderline. I have a Scion that is running a TRD axle back exhaust, something that can be purchased at the dealership and installed before vehicle delivery. Barely louder than stock yet I get hassled be various shops every year. It some cases they slap a Reject sticker on the vehicle, which makes it where you have to replace it with stock or it will never pass. The only place I have found that will pass it with no question is the dealership I bought the car from. I guess it makes sense that they wouldn't fail a car based on parts that they have sitting over in their parts department for sale. I do regularly see cars much louder than mine driving around with legitimate inspection stickers. I guess it is a case of knowing someone willing to take a chance that you are not planted by the MA DMV to catch shady inspection stations.
If anyone has specific before/after videos I would appreciate it. Or I can take the plunge and then try to find a shade-tree way to quiet it down in the event that I need to for inspection.
When it comes to cars, it is a different story. I think shops err on the side of caution when it comes to passing something borderline. I have a Scion that is running a TRD axle back exhaust, something that can be purchased at the dealership and installed before vehicle delivery. Barely louder than stock yet I get hassled be various shops every year. It some cases they slap a Reject sticker on the vehicle, which makes it where you have to replace it with stock or it will never pass. The only place I have found that will pass it with no question is the dealership I bought the car from. I guess it makes sense that they wouldn't fail a car based on parts that they have sitting over in their parts department for sale. I do regularly see cars much louder than mine driving around with legitimate inspection stickers. I guess it is a case of knowing someone willing to take a chance that you are not planted by the MA DMV to catch shady inspection stations.
If anyone has specific before/after videos I would appreciate it. Or I can take the plunge and then try to find a shade-tree way to quiet it down in the event that I need to for inspection.
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