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R50/53 Overlapping/Nullifying Mods??? Further damage???

Old Feb 2, 2018 | 10:52 PM
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Overlapping/Nullifying Mods??? Further damage???

Recently, my 2006 MCS suffered a catastrophic series of failures. It began with my SC, then snowballed into a complete engine swap.

While doing so, I decided to go all in and replace/upgrade loads of parts. Over the past 2 years, my suspension has been done 100%. Now, I've continued on the engine/performance mods. I've added a CAI, 15% SC pulley, 2% Crank pulley, NGK spark plugs and (previously installed) a custom cat-back exhaust with muffler deletes.

Included in these mods was the Detroit Tuned Bypass valve. This is meant to alleviate any lag in the throttle response. After a few days of the ECU relearning the ratios, I've seen a dramatic improvement in throttle response and an added "throw you back in the seat" factor. My next intended upgrade is the Shark Injector. One of the advertised benefits of this mod is an increase to the throttle response.

Who here can vouch for the Shark Injector? Who thinks this mod could nullify the effects of the bypass valve? Could adding all of these mods prior to the Shark waste the potential of its benefits? And who thinks adding the Shark Injector could harm my car?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:30 AM
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The search engine here is not the best but if you a Google search for Mini Cooper Shark Injector you will get one than a few posts that will lead you back here. Below is one. Way Motors is a vendor that has his own shop. He has a post within the thread. You make up your own mind.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...xperience.html
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Whine not Walnuts
The search engine here is not the best but if you a Google search for Mini Cooper Shark Injector you will get one than a few posts that will lead you back here. Below is one. Way Motors is a vendor that has his own shop. He has a post within the thread. You make up your own mind.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...xperience.html
Thanks for the response. I've read every thread I could find, here and elseqhels, pertaining to the Shark. I was looking more for an educated or experienced input, specifically relating to the combination of mods. I ahouls have made that clearer in my post. I've used this forum for years, and as I'm not a wrench monkey, nor a qualified mechanic, I've stuck mainly to reading and not sharing. My main concern is trying to do too much with the platform I have. My goal is to maxommax the potential and performance with the parts I have.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2018 | 02:50 PM
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Allot depends on what you are trying to get out of the car. You want speed, wrong car. You want something that the Corvettes, Mustangs and Camaros will pull over on the Dragon for, then work on the brakes and suspension.

My friend has a engine similar to yours but bigger brakes and is lowered. His Gen1 will run over allot of Gen2s and 3's on the twisties as he is very good driver.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2018 | 03:09 PM
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https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ash-tunes.html
 
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Old Feb 4, 2018 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Whine not Walnuts
Allot depends on what you are trying to get out of the car. You want speed, wrong car. You want something that the Corvettes, Mustangs and Camaros will pull over on the Dragon for, then work on the brakes and suspension.

My friend has a engine similar to yours but bigger brakes and is lowered. His Gen1 will run over allot of Gen2s and 3's on the twisties as he is very good driver.
Thanks Walnuts. I'm not delusional, nor do have a little dog complex. I got my Mini because of it's cult status and "grinning ear-to-ear" fun factor. More power and performance out of anything is what everyone strives for. I was just curious about whether my combo of mods was enough, and if the addition of the Shark would be an improvement over my current status or detrimental to my car's performance.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 05:04 AM
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A cam, bigger injectors and a tune are the motor side next steps. If you can turn your own wrench, about $1200. Double that and you can add a shorty header. The biggest dilemma with the Gen1 is although it is a great platform its old and a person is never going to get the mod money back out of the car.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 05:05 AM
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I would not let that shark thing touch my car

get a proper tune, RMW or 1320
 
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 06:57 AM
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Don't buy the Shark, they're outdated and were garbage even back in their hayday. If you want to keep the car reliable and make power I would highly recommend a tune from a reputable source such as RMW or Mynes.
 
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