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R50/53 I give up!

Old Oct 30, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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I give up!

This harmonic balancer is a POS! I retap on screw point then got it working. Next screw point strips out so I start tapping that one and the tap breaks off into the hole. So now I have two useless screw points for the pulley puller! I swear I'm about to loose it. So I guess my only option is to weld the puller to the balancer to remove it. Any other option out there guys?
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 10:36 AM
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Use a three jaw puller, Thad how I got mine off.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 10:50 AM
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Yes, use a three arm puller to remove it. If you haven't, check out our DIY here to help you with your project.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 11:12 AM
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I did that what screwed the whole thing up!
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Show us what's going on, take s couple pics.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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I did that what screwed the whole thing up!
Post up a pic of whats going on. I can help you more then just posting links for the DIY
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 01:59 PM
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Left hole is good, top right whole stripped, bottom hole tap broken into unit. Aka I'm Fukd.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 02:09 PM
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Did you try getting a three jaw on the outside of the pulley?
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 02:14 PM
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+1 on the outside with a three jaw and with the long claw. Also hit the center with some PB blaster and on the other side of the pulley between the cover and pulley.

Then have someone tap the side very lightly on the pulley with a hammer to break the friction. .
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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Yeah I have a three claw puller but I tell you this thing is a biotch to use. Definitely will follow your advice.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bavmotors
Did you try getting a three jaw on the outside of the pulley?
+1. I would do the 3 jaw next unless you want to drill 3 new fresh holes. May also want to use WD-40 or something similar in case it is stuck on from age, heat/rust. Hope you get this off, be sure to let us know if you get stuck again.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 02:57 PM
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Sure thing. Also what the best 3 claw you guys used?
 
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Sure thing. Also what the best 3 claw you guys used?
I have one that I've had forever that I got from a local auto parts store. As long as it's a good solid metal anyone should work fine.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 03:17 PM
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I had to slightly modify the jaws by grinding them to get them to grab well enough. It's by no means easy, but that's how you will get it off.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 03:46 PM
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Thanks for info.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 08:23 PM
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If it was me. I have a mig welder. I would just weld nuts to the front and get it done.
 
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Thanks for info.
Welcome,

Get a three claw that's heavy duty. Some local auto parts stores only have an off brand one. I have the Lisle one, and it works.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Smthkd
This harmonic balancer is a POS! I retap on screw point then got it working. Next screw point strips out so I start tapping that one and the tap breaks off into the hole. So now I have two useless screw points for the pulley puller! I swear I'm about to loose it. So I guess my only option is to weld the puller to the balancer to remove it. Any other option out there guys?
When you do give up -- i have a small sum of money for the car for you :-) hehe -- keep at it.

As I remember when I did mine (old style -- early R53 model) - when it finally came off there was a little bit of a build up in the tension before it finally came out and started to move.

I am sorry you are having such problems with this -- 3 jaw puller should be able to help -- heavy duty, not the one from autozone I guess... or just have a shop take this off for you....do not be tempted by heat as an idea...way too much near that thing to apply heat I would say.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 09:04 AM
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Also, make sure you're only applying pressure going through the hole of the pulley. When I first tried this, I thought the rusted & polished surfaces (under the mounting bolt head) were where the pulley & crank separated. Nope. Ended up bending some bolts & tearing some washers. I had luck with a couple long headless studs placed down inside where the normal bolt threads are. Once I figured this out it actually came off pretty easily.

To better understand the method that I found to work, search for Mod Mini on YouTube & watch his front main seal tutorial!
 
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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Guys thanks for all the advice. It looks like I have no choice but to weld the puller on. Funny I wanted to avoid all this but it's the only option. The balancer is on so tight and without bolt points I can't use conventional approach. The 3 sided claw just won't grab the pulley either.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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To get the tap out, it looks like it's a 3 flute hobby type. Take a couple small picks, put them in the holes and put a screw driver between then and gently wiggle back and forth. It's a finesse thing. Gotta do it gently. Just wiggle it back and forth to get it to move the try back it out. Then back in. The back out. It's gonna take time. Once it's out far enough grab it with vice grips. Be very gentle.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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Here is some advise that I have learned over the years working on front ends. After spraying the joint with some type of penetrating oil, position the pulley and tighten bolt till it has significant pressure. Take a good size hammer and smack the pulley bolt straight down. I taken apart the most stubborn joints in this manner.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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Hey, Are you placing the pulley adj bolt on to the pulley itself or on an extension balancer pulley bolt. Go to the Pelican.com website to review the procedure. The pulley must be pushing against the extension bolt so that the balancer can be removed otherwise you are just pushing against balancer and doing nothing except bending the "sh*t" out of it.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kaneguy
Hey, Are you placing the pulley adj bolt on to the pulley itself or on an extension balancer pulley bolt. Go to the Pelican.com website to review the procedure. The pulley must be pushing against the extension bolt so that the balancer can be removed otherwise you are just pushing against balancer and doing nothing except bending the "sh*t" out of it.
good point^^^
 
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 12:34 PM
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No I have a bolt extension going down the center of the puller and pulley.
 
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