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Navigation & Audio Nav Software v28 released

Old Sep 19, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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Nav Software v28 released

Our good friends over at X5world are reporting Version 28 of the Nav Software is out. Here is the link, people only reporting its a bit faster so far.

http://www.x5world.com/navigation-sy...ailable-2.html
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Hmmm... interesting... I look forward to hearing if there's anything more than the speed.

The one bug I hate that was actually INTRODUCED with one of the last few updates... when you look up something in the Information directory, it fails to show & display the actual number of the address (after you retrieve it from the database). It only shows the city & street! I think it still takes you to the correct number, but it irks me that it doesn't appear to load the house number.

I hope they fixed that with V28.

EDIT: Nope, same problem is still there with V28. Bummer.
 

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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 05:06 AM
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Great news to hear.. I am downloading it right now. Hope to see the difference.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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I'll wait a few days on the forums and then post on my blog. I have to wait to get my car back from the dealer to update my car.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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I'm running it now. So far I have had no issues.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Thanks for reporting on this!
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Finally

installed it myself (my car was at the dealership for the last 3 days) can't tell any difference really.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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NE1 willing to hack it to add the British female voice?
cheiron19 ?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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The official PDF file for V28 has been posted on x5world: http://x5world.com/pdf/v28.pdf

It says "There are no new features relevant for US vehicles on Navigation SW V28". It looks like the release was to fix a motorised display flap issue on BMW E83, E85, and E86 vehicles.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Well I did the GB voice hack this morning and uploaded the file. Nobody did it last time and I was dissapointed. So I had to look up the directions on how to do it myself and then post it for everyone to have. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2LEDUZ6

Not responsible, bla bla bla... do at your own risk, yadda yadda yadda... Enjoy!
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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I have an 05 build MCS with NAV and have noticed that A LOT of the directions my navigation gives me are just plain wrong. Especially in Texas, when I get outside of the city limits, my NAV just completely looses my position. If I were to install one of these updates, would that solve this problem, or would have to go to the dealership and pay for the upgrade CDs?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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skitelluride,

My '06 (Sept 05 build) came with Nav version 25 installed. The subsequent updates have given improved graphics, auto-dismiss of the nag screen, 3D perspective view (cool looking but I don't find it useful), and reportedly faster processing of satellite positioning (I can't verify this). I think it's worthwhile to update even if it doesn't solve your problems.

Which year release of NavTeq map disc do you have (eject the disc and look on the label)? If you have a very old map disc, a new one might possibly help. Honestly though I doubt that the route directions will improve.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rkw
skitelluride,

My '06 (Sept 05 build) came with Nav version 25 installed. The subsequent updates have given improved graphics, auto-dismiss of the nag screen, 3D perspective view (cool looking but I don't find it useful), and reportedly faster processing of satellite positioning (I can't verify this). I think it's worthwhile to update even if it doesn't solve your problems.

Which year release of NavTeq map disc do you have (eject the disc and look on the label)? If you have a very old map disc, a new one might possibly help. Honestly though I doubt that the route directions will improve.
As rkw said with the new map updates the Nav is greatly improved. I used to have issues where the nav would loose my position and take upwards of a minute to find itself again. Since the install of version 27.1 and the new (at the time) 2006.2 DVD my car has been great for directions.

Now with the v28 and the newest 2007.1 DVD the nav continues to improve with fast operation and accurate movement.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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To download the newest update (without hacked GB voice) check it out @ my blog:
http://mini.mdsbrain.com/?p=200
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Thanks, omascow!! Your download, unzip, burn and firmware upgrade all worked flawlessly for me, and the British Female continues to patiently tell me where to go on my upgraded system.

Thanks for your time,
Ed.

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Well I did the GB voice hack this morning and uploaded the file. Nobody did it last time and I was dissapointed. So I had to look up the directions on how to do it myself and then post it for everyone to have. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2LEDUZ6

Not responsible, bla bla bla... do at your own risk, yadda yadda yadda... Enjoy!
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mr_edly
Thanks, omascow!! Your download, unzip, burn and firmware upgrade all worked flawlessly for me, and the British Female continues to patiently tell me where to go on my upgraded system.
That's nice to hear good feedback for those who don't have the GB voice by default...

mdsbrain - may I suggest you grab a copy and put it on your site too? I know that a lot of requests come through for this, and now that someone's done it, and for V28 no less, it seems a valuable download to have close-by.

omascow deserves much praise. I (luckily) don't need a modified copy myself, but I'm very happy to know that nobody has to miss out now.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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I have v27.1 and have a british female voice on it. If I install v28 will I need the Hack for the voice to remain? And where do you get the 2007.1 DVD?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffherbst
I have v27.1 and have a british female voice on it. If I install v28 will I need the Hack for the voice to remain?
That depends - how new is your MINI? Most MINIs made in the last few years included the GB voice as a standard option. If you have never installed a "hacked" upgrade of the Nav OS, and you always had GB anyway, then don't worry, just install the standard upgrade, you won't lose anything.

The "hacked" version is basically the USA voice option, but the GB voice files were set to replace the original USA voice files, so the Nav "thinks" you are using the USA voice, but it sounds GB. Check your settings menu... cars that have both (newer ones, like mine) will actually show both USA & GB as choices on the menu.
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And where do you get the 2007.1 DVD?
The only legal ways to get it are:
  1. Buy it from your dealer
  2. Buy it directly from NavTeq
Both options cost $199.

NOTE: All posts regarding illegal methods of obtaining the map disc will be deleted. The Nav OS updates are legal to copy, the map discs aren't.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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mdsbrain - may I suggest you grab a copy and put it on your site too? I know that a lot of requests come through for this, and now that someone's done it, and for V28 no less, it seems a valuable download to have close-by.
Agreed

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NOTE: All posts regarding illegal methods of obtaining the map disc will be deleted. The Nav OS updates are legal to copy, the map discs aren't.
The Nav OS updates and the latest Map DVD really help bring what some say is a subpar Nav system into it's own. I highly reccomend the OS and Map updates
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffherbst
I have v27.1 and have a british female voice on it. If I install v28 will I need the Hack for the voice to remain? And where do you get the 2007.1 DVD?
If you are already running v27.1, there is really no compelling reason to install v28. See my post #9 in this thread.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rkw
If you are already running v27.1, there is really no compelling reason to install v28. See my post #9 in this thread.
Thanks. I'll just wait until a more compelling upgrade. Oh Mine is an 06 MCSa, took delivery in June, so It came with the GB option. I've not installed any upgrades to the NAV yet.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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I think I found a visible difference with V28! It's TINY, totally irrelevant... but it's there:

After you search for something in the information database, the icons appear on the map pointing out all items in the same category.

In the older versions (pre-V28), the option to remove the icons was called "Disable icons". Now, with V28, the option is called "Hide icons".

There - a difference.

Personally, even though I had V27.1, I updated anyway. I always like to have the latest... there may be other small improvements that are not documented in the PDF too.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Edge
...NOTE: All posts regarding illegal methods of obtaining the map disc will be deleted. The Nav OS updates are legal to copy, the map discs aren't.
I beg to differ... No matter how you try and justify this, it's JUST AS ILLEGAL to make copies of the nav OS update CD's as it is to make copies of the map data discs. All of the information on the OS update CD is copyrighted to VDO and so it is indeed illegal to make and/or distribute copies of it without their express permission.

Personally, I could give a hoot about the distribution of either the map updates or the OS updates, but it boggles my mind when folks try to justify one being okay to copy and not the other (simply because one cost money directly whereas the other does not, etc.).

Please note that I'm not trying to single you or anyone else out specifically here, I simply want folks to know that it is indeed just as illegal to make copies of the nav update CD's as it is the map update CD's/DVD's (so don't try and fool yourselves). It's your conscience and so you're the one who has to decide if you feel okay doing it or not. If you don't mind, then go for it. Just be sure you know the truth is all.

Personally, I feel that if you're going to allow one to take place, then you should allow the other as well (or visa versa).

I guess that we're just lucky that VDO/BMW don't seem to mind the updates being distributed on the Internet is all.

Just my $0.02...
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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I beg to differ... JUST AS ILLEGAL
Hmm - I hadn't though about it that way before.
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Personally, I could give a hoot about the distribution of either the map updates or the OS updates
Yes, but you also aren't exposing yourself to risk in this - Mark Ferguson is though! As a Moderator I have to act based upon the continued best interests of NAM community - and that especially includes reducing risk of lawsuit (and possible shutdown). You may think that's a stretch, but this is the land of the lawsuits, and why take the chance?
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simply because one cost money directly whereas the other does not, etc.
I suspect that's the basis of my (and many others) opinion on this. The OS updates are simply not available for sale, however any dealer who is willing to risk the liability (in case something goes wrong) can install these updates without charging the customer (except for labor). The fact that the NavOS updates are available from various websites, and that I have yet to hear of any of them being shut down... so with both of those reasons, there's a feeling of implicit permission to distribute it.

However, copying the map discs are a far more blatant "cheating" of income from the company that makes them (NAVTEQ).
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Personally, I feel that if you're going to allow one to take place, then you should allow the other as well (or visa versa).
I disagree. I still feel there is a distinct difference.
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I guess that we're just lucky that VDO/BMW don't seem to mind the updates being distributed on the Internet is all.
I agree! Perhaps their copyright is primarily intended to prevent competitors from stealing their code and ideas?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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Just a stupid question that I haven't yet found the definitive answer to (unless I missed it)... my current nav shows version "4/71". Is this version 27.1 of the Nav software? If so, what will the upgrade to v28 show - "4/80" ?

Thanks!
 
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