Navigation & Audio Hardwiring USB Power?
Hardwiring USB Power?
I tried to search for a product on the internet that was a kit to hardwire a couple USB outlets so that I could plug in my phone and ipod without having to take up the power adapter in the front. I have put in a small charging flashlight in that outlet and would like to keep it there. Plus the adapters that plug into the power outlet are all big an bulky and I prefer hiding the plugs so the interior looks clean. Anyone either done this or have a link to a product that you can hardwire to the fuse panel and have it end in two or three USB power outlets?
A couple of approaches to consider:
Install extra 12V lighter sockets. Use a USB adapter in each of them.
Use a USB hub. USB is 5V, so the hub is probably powered by 5V from an AC adapter wall wart. Buid or buy a circuit to step down from 12V to 5V, which you would use to power the hub.
Install extra 12V lighter sockets. Use a USB adapter in each of them.
Use a USB hub. USB is 5V, so the hub is probably powered by 5V from an AC adapter wall wart. Buid or buy a circuit to step down from 12V to 5V, which you would use to power the hub.
A usb line consists of 4 lines...
Pin Cable color Description
1 Red = +5 VDC
2 White = Data -
3 Green = Data +
4 Black = Ground
For just power you would ignore the data lines and just go for the red and black.
Hope that help a little...
Pin Cable color Description
1 Red = +5 VDC
2 White = Data -
3 Green = Data +
4 Black = Ground
For just power you would ignore the data lines and just go for the red and black.
Hope that help a little...
Last edited by sil3ncer7; Jan 18, 2008 at 06:56 AM.
A couple of approaches to consider:
Install extra 12V lighter sockets. Use a USB adapter in each of them.
Use a USB hub. USB is 5V, so the hub is probably powered by 5V from an AC adapter wall wart. Buid or buy a circuit to step down from 12V to 5V, which you would use to power the hub.
Install extra 12V lighter sockets. Use a USB adapter in each of them.
Use a USB hub. USB is 5V, so the hub is probably powered by 5V from an AC adapter wall wart. Buid or buy a circuit to step down from 12V to 5V, which you would use to power the hub.
While I am still learning, my understanding is that somewhere in the line I would need to convert the 12v battery power to 5v USB power so understanding what each line color does is helpful but I was hoping to find a product that would do all the hard work for me, or at least someone who had been there and done that so I could follow someone else's greater experience. Thanks for your response.
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While I am still learning, my understanding is that somewhere in the line I would need to convert the 12v battery power to 5v USB power so understanding what each line color does is helpful but I was hoping to find a product that would do all the hard work for me, or at least someone who had been there and done that so I could follow someone else's greater experience. Thanks for your response.
((12VDC))-- to --((5vAC)) -- ((Portable usb hub)) -- 4 lines from hub to location in the car..
How many outputs are you looking to have?
I would try and find a portable hub so you wont have to deal with the standard 120v house plug. The portable hub if I am not mistaken, uses power from the notebook (or car).
Lighter-to-USB adaptors are for sale all over the net from as low as $5. I'd move the flashlight to the boot and pick up a dual USB adapter. I can't remember, ever needing a flashlight while driving around anyway. I used to keep a little LED light around but I never used it. It's hanging on a key rack in the house now.
Last edited by chuckt; Jan 18, 2008 at 07:00 AM.
Changed.. Sry about that.
Here is a good reference site for USB pin outs and signals
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
Here is a good reference site for USB pin outs and signals
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
Lighter-to-USB adaptors are for sale all over the net from as low as $5. I'd move the flashlight to the boot and pick up a dual USB adapter. I can't remember, ever needing a flashlight while driving around anyway. I used to keep a little LED light around but I never used it. It's hanging on a key rack in the house now.

My idea would be to cut off the end and hard wire it into the fuse panel and then run the wiring and place the power end somewhere out of the way. But I was hoping to find something like this with JUST the USB.
Last edited by ACEkraut11; Jan 18, 2008 at 07:54 AM.
My approach to this would be kinda what you have and what rwk said. From
((12VDC))-- to --((5vAC)) -- ((Portable usb hub)) -- 4 lines from hub to location in the car..
How many outputs are you looking to have?
I would try and find a portable hub so you wont have to deal with the standard 120v house plug. The portable hub if I am not mistaken, uses power from the notebook (or car).
((12VDC))-- to --((5vAC)) -- ((Portable usb hub)) -- 4 lines from hub to location in the car..
How many outputs are you looking to have?
I would try and find a portable hub so you wont have to deal with the standard 120v house plug. The portable hub if I am not mistaken, uses power from the notebook (or car).
I had thought to install extra 12v lighter sockets but I really wanted to avoid the look of someone who had one wall outlet at Christmas time and every string of lights being run off that one outlet. I may have to do that in the long run but I am hoping there is a more elegant solution, like you mentioned in your last sentence. I was hoping that someone knew of an existing product that would do the step down for me so I wouldnt need to build it.
.To use a 5V USB hub, Google "12v 5v converter" and you'll find off-the-shelf voltage converters ready to use. For example: http://www.powerstream.com/dc6.htm
I meant mounting extra hardwired 12V sockets into interior panels for a factory look. Add some extra ashtrays and make your car look like a smokers paradise
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To use a 5V USB hub, Google "12v 5v converter" and you'll find off-the-shelf voltage converters ready to use. For example: http://www.powerstream.com/dc6.htm
.To use a 5V USB hub, Google "12v 5v converter" and you'll find off-the-shelf voltage converters ready to use. For example: http://www.powerstream.com/dc6.htm
Nice, but where is the link to the item shown?
I did spend some time looking around the net for the product I was looking for and found a couple that might work but I really wanted to hide the whole tangled wire look. I actually have used the flashlight a couple times, but my driveway is not lighted and I often get home after dark so it has come in handy. I also take it with me when I run out to check the mail after coming home at night. One product I found that holds the most promise so far is:

My idea would be to cut off the end and hard wire it into the fuse panel and then run the wiring and place the power end somewhere out of the way. But I was hoping to find something like this with JUST the USB.

My idea would be to cut off the end and hard wire it into the fuse panel and then run the wiring and place the power end somewhere out of the way. But I was hoping to find something like this with JUST the USB.
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