SIRIUS & iPod adapter

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Oct 8, 2007 | 06:10 AM
  #1  
I just installed an Ipod adapter in my MINI with the HK system.

My problem is, before the install my Sirus radio worked fine. After the install, my Sirus does not work, meaning the radio can switch to it and the channels show, but I get no sound.

Is there a way to have both, or am I limited to one or the other?
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Oct 8, 2007 | 07:18 AM
  #2  
None that I know of to have have both. I took out my OEM iPod and put in a DICE and XM. I believe it is the same with the Sirrius unit. They both use the CD Changer input on the back of the Head Unit.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 07:36 AM
  #3  
Quote: None that I know of to have have both. I took out my OEM iPod and put in a DICE and XM. I believe it is the same with the Sirrius unit. They both use the CD Changer input on the back of the Head Unit.
So I only get to use one or the other, Not both correct?
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Oct 8, 2007 | 08:04 AM
  #4  
Quote: So I only get to use one or the other, Not both correct?
Technically you can use both the OEM SIRIUS and an iPod together, but not through the traditional install for the OEM iPod adapter.

cadfael_tex is correct in that the OEM SIRIUS receiver uses the CD changer cables to operate, which are run to the boot, and that's where the receiver is installed.

The "official" install of the OEM iPod adapter is plugged directly into the head unit, which then disconnects the CD changer cable (and in turn, the OEM SIRIUS receiver in the back).

However, the OEM SIRIUS reciever has a "pass-through" ability... it is intended to allow you to keep your OEM CD changer even after the SIRIUS receiver is installed. The nice thing is that any device that is designed to plug into the CD changer cable can still be used via the "pass-through" ability.

I am not sure if the OEM iPod adapter could be relocated to the boot for this, because I'm not sure if the cable connections are the same (i.e. direct plug into head unit vs. plug into CD changer cable), but at the very least, an aftermarket iPod adapter such as the DICE, which is designed specifically for the CD changer cable, will work just fine with the OEM SIRIUS reciever.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 08:05 AM
  #5  
I've become so used to my Ipod, I can't imagine not having one. I wonder if it's the same for sirius or xm? I've never had either
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Oct 8, 2007 | 09:07 AM
  #6  
Quote:
I am not sure if the OEM iPod adapter could be relocated to the boot for this, because I'm not sure if the cable connections are the same (i.e. direct plug into head unit vs. plug into CD changer cable
Where is this connection? Maybe I caould figure something out. I love my Sirus.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 09:15 AM
  #7  
Quote: Where is this connection? Maybe I caould figure something out. I love my Sirus.
The pass-through connection is on the top of the OEM SIRIUS receiver. It has a rubber plug to keep the dust & dirt out - remove the plug and the sockets are there for the CDC extension cable (part number 84 11 0 150 532, as mentioned on the first page of the OEM SIRIUS reciever install instructions).
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Oct 8, 2007 | 09:40 AM
  #8  
Quote: I've become so used to my Ipod, I can't imagine not having one. I wonder if it's the same for sirius or xm? I've never had either
If you're using the Blitzsafe combo with the correct adapter - it already has the pass-through built in. OEM Sirius needs a slave cable we have on the site.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 10:41 AM
  #9  
Quote: OEM Sirius needs a slave cable we have on the site.
Quote: the CDC extension cable (part number 84 11 0 150 532, as mentioned on the first page of the OEM SIRIUS reciever install instructions).
Yep.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 10:49 AM
  #10  
Quote: The pass-through connection is on the top of the OEM SIRIUS receiver. It has a rubber plug to keep the dust & dirt out - remove the plug and the sockets are there for the CDC extension cable (part number 84 11 0 150 532, as mentioned on the first page of the OEM SIRIUS reciever install instructions).
Where is the reciever located. And where can I get the cable? Is this all I am going to need to make my Ipod adpater and Sirus work?

I do not believe I have the OEM SIRUS install instructions. Bought my MINI used.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 10:56 AM
  #11  
Quote: Where is the reciever located.
In all 1st Gen hardtop MINIs, it should be in the boot pocket. If you don't have H/K or DPSM, it will be in the passenger-side boot pocket. If you do have the H/K or DPSM, it will be in the driver-side boot pocket.
Quote: And where can I get the cable?
The cable is a BMW/MINI part and can be bought from any dealership or other place that sells official parts. EAS sells a pass-through cable, but I'm not sure if it is the OEM cable or an aftermarket one (Tom will be able to clarify that).
Quote: Is this all I am going to need to make my Ipod adpater and Sirus work?
Not necessarily... the cable is all you need to re-add CD changer cables -after- your OEM SIRIUS receiver.

Whether your iPod adapter can then connect to those cables depends on whether it supports the CD changer cable method or not. Some iPod adapters may only have the plugs to go directly into the head unit (same wires, different plugs, I believe).
Quote: I do not believe I have the OEM SIRUS install instructions. Bought my MINI used.
Here you go, from MotoringFile:

MotoringFile >> Official MINI SIRIUS Install Instructions
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Oct 8, 2007 | 11:01 AM
  #12  
Quote: In all 1st Gen hardtop MINIs, it should be in the boot pocket. If you don't have H/K or DPSM, it will be in the passenger-side boot pocket. If you do have the H/K or DPSM, it will be in the driver-side boot pocket.The cable is a BMW/MINI part and can be bought from any dealership or other place that sells official parts. EAS sells a pass-through cable, but I'm not sure if it is the OEM cable or an aftermarket one (Tom will be able to clarify that).Not necessarily... the cable is all you need to re-add CD changer cables -after- your OEM SIRIUS receiver.

Whether your iPod adapter can then connect to those cables depends on whether it supports the CD changer cable method or not. Some iPod adapters may only have the plugs to go directly into the head unit (same wires, different plugs, I believe).Here you go, from MotoringFile:

MotoringFile >> Official MINI SIRIUS Install Instructions
Thanks for your help.

I know my Ipod adapter plugs into the back of the radio and I had to remove 3 wires from the harness, a white, brown and red. And place them into another plug and connect that to the adapter. But the white plug that I had to remove to put the white plug for the Ipod adapter is where I believe the SIRUS audio comes in to the radio.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 02:02 PM
  #13  
If you've already installed the OEM adapter I'm afraid that you've cut the wires that lead to the Sirius receiver. The iPod can come after the Sirius (which the OEM one can't) but not before because you've basically cut the wires going to it.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 02:25 PM
  #14  
Quote: If you've already installed the OEM adapter I'm afraid that you've cut the wires that lead to the Sirius receiver. The iPod can come after the Sirius (which the OEM one can't) but not before because you've basically cut the wires going to it.
Really? Installing the OEM iPod adapter actually involves cutting wires?

I would have thought simply "disconnecting" the old ones would have been the trick.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 02:47 PM
  #15  
Quote: If you've already installed the OEM adapter I'm afraid that you've cut the wires that lead to the Sirius receiver. The iPod can come after the Sirius (which the OEM one can't) but not before because you've basically cut the wires going to it.
Umm....I didn't cut any wires.

I simply pulled the wire and pin out of the plug.

I just realized I posted under my g/f log in...DOH!
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Oct 8, 2007 | 04:53 PM
  #16  
Nope, nope, nope.

You can have the iPod adapter AND the Sirius without doing pass-through. I have it, and it works fine

You need to ask your dealership for a splitter. There is a special piece that goes into the harness so you can split that section to do both jobs. Once you have that, it's just a piggy-back onto the existing harness. It's very easy, the whole thing will take you ten minutes.
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Oct 8, 2007 | 06:59 PM
  #17  
Quote: Nope, nope, nope.

You can have the iPod adapter AND the Sirius without doing pass-through. I have it, and it works fine

You need to ask your dealership for a splitter. There is a special piece that goes into the harness so you can split that section to do both jobs. Once you have that, it's just a piggy-back onto the existing harness. It's very easy, the whole thing will take you ten minutes.
You wouldn't happen to have a part number for that would you?
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Oct 8, 2007 | 07:00 PM
  #18  
The Instructions I have that show installing it show cutting the terminals off of the orginal wires and putting them into a connector for the iPod adapter. When I unistalled mine that is what the dealership that installed mine had done.

ML, this is the first I've heard about a splitter but it makes sense. Sure wish I had know about it earlier!
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Oct 9, 2007 | 06:42 AM
  #19  
I took the AUX adapter out (the one located in the glove box). Can I repin the Ipod connector for that pinout and use it in the AUX plug on the back of the radio?

I checked the connection at the SIRUS reciever last night and it is a pain to get to it.
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Oct 10, 2007 | 12:09 PM
  #20  
Quote: You wouldn't happen to have a part number for that would you?
I don't. But let me make a call to my dealer and see if I can find out what it was. They sold it to me; they ought to know what it was.
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Oct 10, 2007 | 12:56 PM
  #21  
Quote: I don't. But let me make a call to my dealer and see if I can find out what it was. They sold it to me; they ought to know what it was.
thank you
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