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#276
Thanks for the orders
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Did you see the Clubman Sales? Looks like everyone wants one.
http://www.motoringfile.com/2016/12/...mbers-context/
http://www.motoringfile.com/2016/12/...mbers-context/
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#278
Yea, few R58 / R59 from last year still in stock. It was a great model. Glad I have one. The Paceman should be coming to an end also.
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Yea, the new Clubman sales are impressive.
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#284
hey Dinan im hoping you can help. I work in the service department at a MINI dealership and we have been selling and installing these on customer cars and I had one come back in today with a code for charging pressure sensor, signal: Pressure too high during after run. Have you guys seen this yet? Any help would be appreciated.
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hey Dinan im hoping you can help. I work in the service department at a MINI dealership and we have been selling and installing these on customer cars and I had one come back in today with a code for charging pressure sensor, signal: Pressure too high during after run. Have you guys seen this yet? Any help would be appreciated.
#286
So at last the Dinan power box finally reached me. Installed it on my B38 Just a Cooper without seeming problems other than trying to disconnect the sensor in the narrow area behind the fan. While I was installing it, it snowed heavily, so I couldn't test it right away. The next day the whole city was one big traffic jam as it always is before new year when everyone is out to buy presents. Nevertheless, during short starts from traffic lights I could feel some improvement in power delivery.
I also had a struggle with my iPhone, the Dinan app needed newer iOS, so I had to install it. I finally did it and installed the app, it found the Dinan Sport device and connected to it, but I was very disappointed to find the there was no difference between the modes, even Valet and Race felt the same. What could I have done wrong?
I also had a struggle with my iPhone, the Dinan app needed newer iOS, so I had to install it. I finally did it and installed the app, it found the Dinan Sport device and connected to it, but I was very disappointed to find the there was no difference between the modes, even Valet and Race felt the same. What could I have done wrong?
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Is it me.. or...
Is it me, or...
Why get a Generic Chip, Dinan, NM Engineering Power Module etc... addon chip and pay $300 for 30hp, when for $600 you can get 63hp like a RaceChip TB.
I know that seat of your pants feel, vs real world. Pumping up by 30hp, it is not a Nitrous injected type of increase where you feel it ACROSS the board by an increase of 30HP. It is a progressive increase TO 30HP.
The car is faster, but more seat of the pants faster than real world, pull away from another car faster.
It is for this reason, that I would suggest people save there pennies and get a more "honest" feel of 63HP produced by say the RaceChip TB (or the likes). This kind of horsepower increase is more than a subjective seat of the pants type of increase. It is REAL World. Real passing power quick.
Cheers
Why get a Generic Chip, Dinan, NM Engineering Power Module etc... addon chip and pay $300 for 30hp, when for $600 you can get 63hp like a RaceChip TB.
I know that seat of your pants feel, vs real world. Pumping up by 30hp, it is not a Nitrous injected type of increase where you feel it ACROSS the board by an increase of 30HP. It is a progressive increase TO 30HP.
The car is faster, but more seat of the pants faster than real world, pull away from another car faster.
It is for this reason, that I would suggest people save there pennies and get a more "honest" feel of 63HP produced by say the RaceChip TB (or the likes). This kind of horsepower increase is more than a subjective seat of the pants type of increase. It is REAL World. Real passing power quick.
Cheers
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Is it me, or...
Why get a Generic Chip, Dinan, NM Engineering Power Module etc... addon chip and pay $300 for 30hp, when for $600 you can get 63hp like a RaceChip TB.
I know that seat of your pants feel, vs real world. Pumping up by 30hp, it is not a Nitrous injected type of increase where you feel it ACROSS the board by an increase of 30HP. It is a progressive increase TO 30HP.
The car is faster, but more seat of the pants faster than real world, pull away from another car faster.
It is for this reason, that I would suggest people save there pennies and get a more "honest" feel of 63HP produced by say the RaceChip TB (or the likes). This kind of horsepower increase is more than a subjective seat of the pants type of increase. It is REAL World. Real passing power quick.
Cheers
Why get a Generic Chip, Dinan, NM Engineering Power Module etc... addon chip and pay $300 for 30hp, when for $600 you can get 63hp like a RaceChip TB.
I know that seat of your pants feel, vs real world. Pumping up by 30hp, it is not a Nitrous injected type of increase where you feel it ACROSS the board by an increase of 30HP. It is a progressive increase TO 30HP.
The car is faster, but more seat of the pants faster than real world, pull away from another car faster.
It is for this reason, that I would suggest people save there pennies and get a more "honest" feel of 63HP produced by say the RaceChip TB (or the likes). This kind of horsepower increase is more than a subjective seat of the pants type of increase. It is REAL World. Real passing power quick.
Cheers
The other consideration is the comlexity of the tune. TMAP boxes tweak a single input which the car's DME responds to by making adjustments necessary to keep mixture and timing where it needs to be. Not the optimal solution for enhanced performance, but an easy plug-n-play solution without risking codes or other issues. Whereas more than 4 or 5 PSI of added boost, without doing other mods, brings complexity and some risk that those of us who lease our cars are reluctant to deal with.
Here's Dinan's claimed results with a Cooper S:
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I did 15 minutes of research and found as many "OMG don't use this POS" as "This is a wonderful product" Racechip reviews. While I am sure it is hit and miss, I haven't read one review about the NM module where the car stopped in the middle of the road and went into "limp mode".
Certainly fuel can be an issue if the octane isn't high enough, especially if ambient temp is high. If all other systems are functioning properly, it's difficult to imagine that 3 or 4 PSI of added boost, using premium top tier pump gas, would be problematic. And, for sure, NM and Dinan, and JB have excellent and truly interested customer support.
This is not at all a knock on Race Chip or others. It's simply a matter of what one seeks. I spent $270 delivered for the Dinan and, other than the somewhat funky blue tooth functioning of the iphone app, my butt dyno satisfaction level is 10 out of 10.
I will also say that, in Race mode (+4PSI on Dinan), the performance gain is solid, but with the 8 speed automatic, the shifts are more pronounced than in Sport+ (+3PSI on Dinan), which isn't quite as punchy, but gives very smooth and noticeable boost.
But, if one wants the max, then it's probably necessary to do more than a simple TMAP plug-n-play box. Different options for different needs. It's the beautiful thing about MINI world -- something for everyone.
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I don't want people to think I was ragging on the Racechip, just I was taken a back by the volume of of complaints I saw in comparison to the NM module.
To each their own. With any add-on part to a car it is "buyer beware" as well as "buyer be alert".
And not for nothing, if I wanted 300 BHP I would most likely invest in a Stage 3 tune rather than an add-on.
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TheGeekGuy says:"...if I wanted 300 BHP I would most likely invest in a Stage 3 tune rather than an add-on."
Yup. I've had very high HP performance cars before. Since I'm not a track day guy, my experience was, except for the very rare moment on a sweeping on ramp, most of the extra horses were never used, unless for some crazy reason I felt the need to smoke the tires and do a little fishtail to get the glands pumping.
And based on my conversations with Jerry at NM, plus comments on NAM forums, they are making a very solid product. I went for the Dinan because of price point and the somewhat unfulfilled promise of blue tooth functionality. And 4 PSI extra does it for me, at my advanced age.
Yup. I've had very high HP performance cars before. Since I'm not a track day guy, my experience was, except for the very rare moment on a sweeping on ramp, most of the extra horses were never used, unless for some crazy reason I felt the need to smoke the tires and do a little fishtail to get the glands pumping.
And based on my conversations with Jerry at NM, plus comments on NAM forums, they are making a very solid product. I went for the Dinan because of price point and the somewhat unfulfilled promise of blue tooth functionality. And 4 PSI extra does it for me, at my advanced age.
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I'm sure others have seen this:
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/performance-tuners/
It appears to be the "Dinan" sport tuner box packaged with a Flowmaster label for other cars like Fords with ecoboost systems and sold in red plastic instead of Dinan black. And priced less than the Dinan for MINIs and BMWs.
Same wine in a different bottle???? Hummm.
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/performance-tuners/
It appears to be the "Dinan" sport tuner box packaged with a Flowmaster label for other cars like Fords with ecoboost systems and sold in red plastic instead of Dinan black. And priced less than the Dinan for MINIs and BMWs.
Same wine in a different bottle???? Hummm.
#295
I'm sure others have seen this:
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/performance-tuners/
It appears to be the "Dinan" sport tuner box packaged with a Flowmaster label for other cars like Fords with ecoboost systems and sold in red plastic instead of Dinan black. And priced less than the Dinan for MINIs and BMWs.
Same wine in a different bottle???? Hummm.
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/performance-tuners/
It appears to be the "Dinan" sport tuner box packaged with a Flowmaster label for other cars like Fords with ecoboost systems and sold in red plastic instead of Dinan black. And priced less than the Dinan for MINIs and BMWs.
Same wine in a different bottle???? Hummm.
Too bad my '86 Ecoboost can't use it, but that's OK, a few mods ago it was already at 270rwhp/310rwtq with the stock electronics to boot.
#296
Got to install the Dinantronics Sport Performance Tuner Saturday. A proper dyno test is in order but for now here are my impressions fwiw...
Feels tame as it could be in normal driving but start gunning it and the car turns to a totally different animal. I'm only in the Sport+ setting (there's still "Race") just because of the crap 91 octane gas I use. The car is "angrier" now for lack of a better word. It reaches redline and speeds up faster, with tach and speedo rising in tandem. Torque steer is crrrazy tho. My JCW is a manual and Redline power shifts from 1-2, 2-3, even 3-4 felt like the front wheels wanted to jump out of the axle. Maybe just a learning curve for me as this is my first FWD car, a good problem to have I guess. Overall super pleased with this purchase. A relatively cheap ($300 for +30whp) power upgrade from arguably the best BMW tuner in North America.
Feels tame as it could be in normal driving but start gunning it and the car turns to a totally different animal. I'm only in the Sport+ setting (there's still "Race") just because of the crap 91 octane gas I use. The car is "angrier" now for lack of a better word. It reaches redline and speeds up faster, with tach and speedo rising in tandem. Torque steer is crrrazy tho. My JCW is a manual and Redline power shifts from 1-2, 2-3, even 3-4 felt like the front wheels wanted to jump out of the axle. Maybe just a learning curve for me as this is my first FWD car, a good problem to have I guess. Overall super pleased with this purchase. A relatively cheap ($300 for +30whp) power upgrade from arguably the best BMW tuner in North America.
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Torque steer is hardly noticeable on the Clubman S All4 with the Dinan. (8 speed automatic)
From a stop it pulls hard from all 4 corners with the Dinan in Race mode (+4PSI) with 91 gas and the car in sport mode with the dynamic dampers and heavier steering kicked in.
The trade off is, of course, the Clubby is heavier and has different dynamics than a JCW 2 door.
So far, it's keepin' me happy.
From a stop it pulls hard from all 4 corners with the Dinan in Race mode (+4PSI) with 91 gas and the car in sport mode with the dynamic dampers and heavier steering kicked in.
The trade off is, of course, the Clubby is heavier and has different dynamics than a JCW 2 door.
So far, it's keepin' me happy.
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Just got my Dinan from ECS! Did anyone else have a hard time removing the wiring harness from the pressure sensor? I tried pushing the tab out with the end of a flathead screwdriver and it went flying into the abyss that is the engine bay. In any case, with the tab gone it should come right off and it's not.