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Old 06-28-2021, 08:50 AM
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6WB retrofit on a 2018 F60 MINI CountryMan.



Thanks to nDal on the North American Motoring Community, who helped with the coding of this 6WB digital cluster & retrofit of the same on my 2018 MINI Cooper CountryMan F60. Everything works as expected.

I used Part#62105A189C9 and purchased it from "BMW Parts Worldwide" for around 480/-US$ and it was the cheapest i could find online.
This part suits the Non-JCW variant of Petrol with Kms/hr for F60 CountryMan.

There are other part numbers that could possibly interchange with this and possibly all do the same thing, but if you buy the part that is closest to your car model, you will have that many less problems to solve while coding.
You can check the many available part numbers & their applicability on MINI SEATLE PARTS Website.

The physical installation was easy.
Your HeadUnit must have the MOST port and the Light must output on the side closer to the clip where it plugs into the 6WB cluster.If the light is coming out throughthe other port, you will need to swap the cables to correct it by raising the tab & pins on the clip to release & reinsert the 2 cables. If the light is coming through the wrong cable, the eSys software will not discover the 6WB KOMBI cluster and it will not be possible to code.
Hope this info helps.

Tempered Glass Screen Protector for the 6WB Digital Cluster:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...5c524c4dnJUnZ5

This is an interesting accessory:Phone Holder> for the 6WB cluster.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...3bb94c4d6pFkpU
 

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Hi. A special thanks to #pillpusher for all the info.
I managed to retrofit the cluster and all is well except that I can not change the time or view music or nav instructions on the cluster. The MOST ring is connected the right way around and the cluster responds by sending light back on the return feed, and I can see the KOMBI in the CAFD tree. The manufacturing date has been changed as well.
I am 100% certain it has to do with the version of ESYS and psdzdata but it is a mission to get the 3.x launcher. I can se descriptions for FLE 34 and FLE 44 but not for the KOMBI and HU.
This brings me to my request: Can I ask anyone to check the code number of the FDL codes that corresponds with KOMBI_CIC, EXTERNER_MOST and EXTERNE_MOST_DIAG? (i.e. 3000_90_90_31 which is for the LOGO?) That way I can change the options there.
When I check on ISTA I can see that both the COMBI and the MOST ring is green but the communication on the MOST ring does not seem to be OK.
I hope my ramblings makes sense and that someone may be able to assist me.
Thanks again to all involved!!!

 
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Originally Posted by varma1986


Thanks to nDal on the North American Motoring Community, who helped with the coding of this 6WB digital cluster & retrofit of the same on my 2018 MINI Cooper CountryMan F60. Everything works as expected.

I used Part#62105A189C9 and purchased it from "BMW Parts Worldwide" for around 480/-US$ and it was the cheapest i could find online.
This part suits the Non-JCW variant of Petrol with Kms/hr for F60 CountryMan.

There are other part numbers that could possibly interchange with this and possibly all do the same thing, but if you buy the part that is closest to your car model, you will have that many less problems to solve while coding.
You can check the many available part numbers & their applicability on MINI SEATLE PARTS Website.

The physical installation was easy.
Your HeadUnit must have the MOST port and the Light must output on the side closer to the clip where it plugs into the 6WB cluster.If the light is coming out throughthe other port, you will need to swap the cables to correct it by raising the tab & pins on the clip to release & reinsert the 2 cables. If the light is coming through the wrong cable, the eSys software will not discover the 6WB KOMBI cluster and it will not be possible to code.
Hope this info helps.

Tempered Glass Screen Protector for the 6WB Digital Cluster:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...5c524c4dnJUnZ5

This is an interesting accessory:Phone Holder> for the 6WB cluster.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...3bb94c4d6pFkpU
do you have NBT or EVO Headunit?
 
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Old 07-05-2021, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by varma1986


Thanks to nDal on the North American Motoring Community, who helped with the coding of this 6WB digital cluster & retrofit of the same on my 2018 MINI Cooper CountryMan F60. Everything works as expected.

I used Part#62105A189C9 and purchased it from "BMW Parts Worldwide" for around 480/-US$ and it was the cheapest i could find online.
This part suits the Non-JCW variant of Petrol with Kms/hr for F60 CountryMan.

There are other part numbers that could possibly interchange with this and possibly all do the same thing, but if you buy the part that is closest to your car model, you will have that many less problems to solve while coding.
You can check the many available part numbers & their applicability on MINI SEATLE PARTS Website.

The physical installation was easy.
Your HeadUnit must have the MOST port and the Light must output on the side closer to the clip where it plugs into the 6WB cluster.If the light is coming out throughthe other port, you will need to swap the cables to correct it by raising the tab & pins on the clip to release & reinsert the 2 cables. If the light is coming through the wrong cable, the eSys software will not discover the 6WB KOMBI cluster and it will not be possible to code.
Hope this info helps.

Tempered Glass Screen Protector for the 6WB Digital Cluster:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...5c524c4dnJUnZ5

This is an interesting accessory:Phone Holder> for the 6WB cluster.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...3bb94c4d6pFkpU
do you have NBT or EVO Headunit?
 
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Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. To be honest I am not sure. According to the year, I think it is NBT. Not sure how to confirm though. I am pretty sure the Most fibre is correctly connected because the most ring shows green in ISTA+
 
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Originally Posted by voorbok
Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. To be honest I am not sure. According to the year, I think it is NBT. Not sure how to confirm though. I am pretty sure the Most fibre is correctly connected because the most ring shows green in ISTA+
In ESYS, does it say HU_NBT or HU_NBT2? NBT2 is EVO

I don't have a coding system without CAFD translation any longer (I bought ESYS X since TokenMaster is dead to the world of BMW coding), so count from the top, and the following will be what you're looking for:

If NBT, here's what you need to code:
3001, 19th option = KOMBI_CIC ... Werte = 00 KOMBI High
3004, 36th option = EXTERNER_MOST ... Werte = 01 Aktiv
3004, 37th option = ENTERNE_MOST_DIAG ... Werte = 01 Aktiv


If NBT2, here's what you need to code:
300D, 9th option = KOMBI_CIC ... Werte = 00 Kombi High
3004, 45th option = EXTERNER_MOST ... Werte = 01 Aktiv
ENTERNE_MOST_DIAG ... doesn't exist in EVO, so just code 2 above
 

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Thanks a million for that!!! You are a lifesaver. The time is up and running. Basically had to set the KOMBI_CIC to High (00 in my case, 01 is MID and 02 is LOW) . Thanks again.
 
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Originally Posted by varma1986

Tempered Glass Screen Protector for the 6WB Digital Cluster:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...5c524c4dnJUnZ5

This is an interesting accessory:Phone Holder> for the 6WB cluster.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...3bb94c4d6pFkpU
Don't bother with the tempered glass screen protector gone through 3 different types on Aliexpress and none of them fit properly. They are always cut to large for the Cluster and don't lay flat. Check those 1 star ratings you'll see.
Did find a gloss film off of eBay that I purchased for the center screen and it looks great. So I ordered a larger one and had to cut it down to fit the cluster. Looks great and has that glass shine that I like. Just have to smooth out a few tiny air bubbles.

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Originally Posted by Juanjo Victoria
hi!

I’m trying it on a countryman 2019. No Head up display, I already bought the most cable but I have 2 issues.

first, esys only deploy me f56 and the other platforms but no f60

second, no Kombi menu on the screen when I read the ECU. Only Bkombi, should I follow the same process on this point?

really appreciate your help



Hi
did it work for you?
 
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Fahrenheit, miles, 12-hour clock...are you in the U.S.? Where’d you source the cluster from?
NICE have it also in my clubman f54 digital cluster👍
 
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Hi, when i read ecu , no see a kombi only have a bkombi, any have a ecu file to share plz.
 
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Originally Posted by Frmodule3r
Hi, when i read ecu , no see a kombi only have a bkombi, any have a ecu file to share plz.
Unclip the optic fibre from the cable at the end of Speedometer and arrange the Light emitting part in reverse direction, with the light emitting part closer to the clip, put back the clip and reconnect the plug to the digital speedo. This problem could be due to a badly arranged Optic fibre cable. You can try this trick and see if the ECU will now read the Kombi after this corrective step. I faced this problem and it was solved this way.You can also do this step at the HeadUnit end where the MOST cable originates.
 
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Yes, I agree.The Tempered Glass are not made well.
 
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Thanks! i will try
 
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Originally Posted by varma1986
Unclip the optic fibre from the cable at the end of Speedometer and arrange the Light emitting part in reverse direction, with the light emitting part closer to the clip, put back the clip and reconnect the plug to the digital speedo. This problem could be due to a badly arranged Optic fibre cable. You can try this trick and see if the ECU will now read the Kombi after this corrective step. I faced this problem and it was solved this way.You can also do this step at the HeadUnit end where the MOST cable originates.
Thanks! i will try
 
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Originally Posted by Frmodule3r
Hi, when i read ecu , no see a kombi only have a bkombi, any have a ecu file to share plz.
Did you install the new 6WB cluster yet? If so, it will be called "KOMBI" not "BKOMBI" as that is the analog speedo

 
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Originally Posted by voorbok
Hi. A special thanks to #pillpusher for all the info.
I managed to retrofit the cluster and all is well except that I can not change the time or view music or nav instructions on the cluster. The MOST ring is connected the right way around and the cluster responds by sending light back on the return feed, and I can see the KOMBI in the CAFD tree. The manufacturing date has been changed as well.
I am 100% certain it has to do with the version of ESYS and psdzdata but it is a mission to get the 3.x launcher. I can se descriptions for FLE 34 and FLE 44 but not for the KOMBI and HU.
This brings me to my request: Can I ask anyone to check the code number of the FDL codes that corresponds with KOMBI_CIC, EXTERNER_MOST and EXTERNE_MOST_DIAG? (i.e. 3000_90_90_31 which is for the LOGO?) That way I can change the options there.
When I check on ISTA I can see that both the COMBI and the MOST ring is green but the communication on the MOST ring does not seem to be OK.
I hope my ramblings makes sense and that someone may be able to assist me.
Thanks again to all involved!!!
Latest coding files are always in this BMW forum post:

https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/c.../983244?page=1
 
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Originally Posted by pillpusher84
Did you install the new 6WB cluster yet? If so, it will be called "KOMBI" not "BKOMBI" as that is the analog speedo
no because my radio its a basic .. no have de most connection,.to install the digital speedo, i need the radio with display ..
 
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Originally Posted by Frmodule3r
no because my radio its a basic .. no have de most connection,.to install the digital speedo, i need the radio with display ..
then you won’t see KOMBI in the tree until you physically install it, add most cable and code the HU_NBT or HU_NBT2 correctly to have it pass the data over MOST.

NBT should be almost free at this point used online for a non touch 8.8 CID and you don’t have to buy the touch controller… you can keep the orange **** you have with NBT. There are also very good aftermarket wireless CarPlay adapters you can add on to the NBT so unless you find a great deal on the EVO (NBT2) … you should be able to get a better deal on NBT.
 
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Originally Posted by pillpusher84
then you won’t see KOMBI in the tree until you physically install it, add most cable and code the HU_NBT or HU_NBT2 correctly to have it pass the data over MOST.

NBT should be almost free at this point used online for a non touch 8.8 CID and you don’t have to buy the touch controller… you can keep the orange **** you have with NBT. There are also very good aftermarket wireless CarPlay adapters you can add on to the NBT so unless you find a great deal on the EVO (NBT2) … you should be able to get a better deal on NBT.
I bought this is not touch $700


and this my original radio:


 

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I also bought these cables



 
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looks like you have everything you need
 
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looks like you have everything you need
Thank you! I keep them in update while I install
 
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Help please

I got a 2011 mini 2d s hatchback.
it has Bluetooth but can’t play music..
I need the lcd display preferably touch screen.
Also the new instrument cluster link and all the stuff I need please.
I live in America!
 
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Originally Posted by DeathWalkeR
Hi, it's quite simple, in ESYS (after you have fully coded the car for 6WB) go to HU_NBT red coding data and search/code the string "NAVI_HUD_AVAIABLE" to "aktiv", if you don't have HUD the system will show the micromap on KOMBI, if you have HUD the string is allready active so you have to disable navigation on HUD to show it on KOMBI.

The map will work ONLY when you set a destination on NAVI, i'm looking if is possibile to have the Compass when the navigation is off, i'll update when i find the string
I have HUD the system,I Want to micromap on KOMBI(Not HUD)
I tried it NAVI_HUD_AVAIABLE" to " nicht_aktiv", (LauncherPRO→HU_NBT2)
But,not micromap on KOMBI(Still there on HUD)

Please give me some advice,thank you


 


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