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Old 08-14-2018, 06:37 AM
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Swap direction of shifter?

I've been driving a VW with a DSG for a while and I'm thinking about getting back into a Mini (perhaps after the DCT is available). I'm used to the non-BMW orientation on the shifter (push to go up a gear, pull to go down) and I'm wondering if it's possible to swap the Mini shifter to work that way. I've been googling and found some info suggesting you could switch two hardware pins in the shifter plug, but that info was 10+ years old. Does anyone have more recent information?

If it was just a one time switch, I'd just suck it up and re-learn the muscle memory, but we have another DSG VW that I drive occasionally. I don't think my brain can handle switching back and forth regularly.

Not a deal breaker, but it would be nice to sync up the controls.

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Old 08-14-2018, 12:14 PM
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I would think learning how to shift the new way would be a hell of a lot cheaper than trying to completely change your transmission, shifter etc... etc ..... etc....
 
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:46 PM
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Actually, pulling back to up shift and pushing forward to down shift is the proper way to shift.
 
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Old 08-15-2018, 05:49 AM
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Actually, pulling back to up shift and pushing forward to down shift is the proper way to shift.
Thats what I thought too but didnt want to say that
 
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:11 AM
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+2 on + back, - forward, but at least it isn't the side to side shifting Chrysler/Mercedes used.

Would there be continuity shifting on the steering wheel, or are the paddles different or missing?
 
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Old 08-15-2018, 05:28 PM
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My 2013 had + and - on both sides, that was weird.
The F56 went back to - on the left and + on the right.
 
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:18 AM
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Coming from VW as well I can see what you mean but to me the MINI/BMW version makes more sense.
 
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We have done this before on R56 cars and actually even had one side go one way and the other do the opposite.

If you gave my your car and a few hours I'm sure I could do the same for you, just don't know if you can bring it to Atlanta.
 
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Originally Posted by RB-MINI
+2 on + back, - forward, but at least it isn't the side to side shifting Chrysler/Mercedes used.

Would there be continuity shifting on the steering wheel, or are the paddles different or missing?
Make this +3
-Mike
 
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
My 2013 had + and - on both sides, that was weird.
The F56 went back to - on the left and + on the right.
Personally I think + and - on both sides is correct for a passenger car - so many times one hand or other would be busy when a shift was needed.
One per side is fine for a race car where you always want both hands on the wheel at all times. (This is also an argument I quote for why we want the floppy paddles - you don't have to let go of the wheel to reach the shift lever.)

p.s. all my R56's were +/- on both sides. F65's one per side.

-Mike
 
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Old 08-19-2018, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by njaremka
Actually, pulling back to up shift and pushing forward to down shift is the proper way to shift.
Yup, the proper way to correct this is to figure out how to fix VWs mistake. Cobb was working on something for their Porsche applications:
, they mention they could do it for VW as well.
 
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