F55/F56 What is the normal % off MSRP?
Mini dealerships don't deal like ford or Chevy. Don't expect to get a ton off msrp, especially if you were in my situation where there is one dealership in the entire state. I got $1250 off msrp, and that was haggling my *** off. Although I know there has some been some incentives recently because of delays. I also squeezed $500 credit in the parts department to customize.
It all depends in how much time and effort you are prepared to invest into the negotiation process, and how far away from your local zip code you are prepared to travel to take delivery.
Forget MSRP.
Always negotiate invoice + dealer profit (including fees).
The link below will provide more info:
https://www.truecar.com/prices-new/m...&zipcode=07901
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I live 2 miles from the dealer. Im in a lease now and have or will have three more lease payments before the car arrives. This will be my 6th car from this dealership or Umbrella ship my 2nd from the Mini dealer as the rest were BMW's under same umbrella. I have been a Loyal BMW/Mini customer
This is what Im getting on the build as follows :
Color
Electric Blue Body Color Black Roof/Mirrors
Packages
Premium Package Wired Package
Wired Upgrade
JCW Exterior Package JCW Interior Package
JCW Entry Door Sills
JCW Stainless Steel Pedals + Footrest JCW Leather Shift ****
Exterior
LED Fog Lights
Rear Fog Lights
LED Headlights with Cornering Lights Auto Dimming Rearview Mirror Heated Mirrors & Washer Jets
Rain Sensor and Auto Headlamps Panoramic Sunroof
Rear Spoiler
Roof Rails
White Turn Signals
John Cooper Works Aero Kit
Wheels
17" Black JCW Track Spoke Wheels
Interior
Sport Seats
Center Armrest
Standard Floor Mats
Leather: Lounge Satellite Gray
JCW Leather Steering Wheel w/Multifunction Chrome Line Interior
Anthracite Headliner
MINI Yours Interior Style in Fiber Alloy Carbon Black Color Line
Automatic Climate Control
Storage Package
MINI Excitement Package
Performance
MINI Driving Modes
STND
6-Speed Automatic with Paddle Shifters 2.0L TwinPower Turbocharged Engine Toggle Ignition
Dual Stage, 8 Airbag System Performance Control
Dynamic Damper Control
Audio & Tech
Harman/Kardon Sound System SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Alarm System
Connected + Visual Boost XL Navigation System XL
Real Time Traffic Information
MINI Head-Up Display
Rear-view Camera + PDC
Rear Park Distance Control
On-Board Computer
Comfort Access System
Enhanced Bluetooth and USB/iPod Adapter
Accessories
Driving Lamps in Black
JCW Pro Side Stripes in Black
The total of the build as on the website : $40,729.00
The deal they are giving me:
MSRP:$40.000.00
Preferred Customer Discount : $1500.00
Selling Price: $38,500.00
Options with insulation : $1,050.00
Dealer fees :$699.00
Sales Tax : $2,415.33
Tag fees: $458.85
My remains of the lease Im in now: $1500.00
Out the Door TOTAL: $44,623.18
See attached sheet I got from dealer. Is it me or should I be getting at lest 2000-2500 off? or am I full of myself to think that and need to swallow a reality pill?
This is what Im getting on the build as follows :
Color
Electric Blue Body Color Black Roof/Mirrors
Packages
Premium Package Wired Package
Wired Upgrade
JCW Exterior Package JCW Interior Package
JCW Entry Door Sills
JCW Stainless Steel Pedals + Footrest JCW Leather Shift ****
Exterior
LED Fog Lights
Rear Fog Lights
LED Headlights with Cornering Lights Auto Dimming Rearview Mirror Heated Mirrors & Washer Jets
Rain Sensor and Auto Headlamps Panoramic Sunroof
Rear Spoiler
Roof Rails
White Turn Signals
John Cooper Works Aero Kit
Wheels
17" Black JCW Track Spoke Wheels
Interior
Sport Seats
Center Armrest
Standard Floor Mats
Leather: Lounge Satellite Gray
JCW Leather Steering Wheel w/Multifunction Chrome Line Interior
Anthracite Headliner
MINI Yours Interior Style in Fiber Alloy Carbon Black Color Line
Automatic Climate Control
Storage Package
MINI Excitement Package
Performance
MINI Driving Modes
STND
6-Speed Automatic with Paddle Shifters 2.0L TwinPower Turbocharged Engine Toggle Ignition
Dual Stage, 8 Airbag System Performance Control
Dynamic Damper Control
Audio & Tech
Harman/Kardon Sound System SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Alarm System
Connected + Visual Boost XL Navigation System XL
Real Time Traffic Information
MINI Head-Up Display
Rear-view Camera + PDC
Rear Park Distance Control
On-Board Computer
Comfort Access System
Enhanced Bluetooth and USB/iPod Adapter
Accessories
Driving Lamps in Black
JCW Pro Side Stripes in Black
The total of the build as on the website : $40,729.00
The deal they are giving me:
MSRP:$40.000.00
Preferred Customer Discount : $1500.00
Selling Price: $38,500.00
Options with insulation : $1,050.00
Dealer fees :$699.00
Sales Tax : $2,415.33
Tag fees: $458.85
My remains of the lease Im in now: $1500.00
Out the Door TOTAL: $44,623.18
See attached sheet I got from dealer. Is it me or should I be getting at lest 2000-2500 off? or am I full of myself to think that and need to swallow a reality pill?
Last edited by photoboi; Mar 14, 2015 at 06:49 PM.
Nice build! I will second everything that Afadeev says. Have you gone to the Truecar site and plugged in all your info? We went through USAA (which uses truecar) and saved $2500 on our MINI and it had a much lower OTD price than yours. We are going to have to travel an extra 2 hours to get this price, our closest dealer did not use Truecar and was not pleasent to deal with.
Not all dealers will haggle on a build-to-order car, so as was stated above be prepared to take delivery from a dealer that may not be close to you.
My local dealers won't budge on MSRP on an ordered MINI - that's the standard response. And according to my nearest dealer, there currently is no 'loyalty program' in effect. (I thought that was a dealer thing and not a MINI USA thing, but whatever). However, they did concede a $1K price cut for dealer loyalty (having purchased 3 MINIs and one BMW from the same dealer) and they will honor whatever the current USAA promo is at the time. (Currently, USAA shows $500 off an S, 2 or 4 door, valid until Jan 2016). I'm also a member of a local credit union that offers a similar deal, so they'll give me the higher amount of the 2. So I'm $1500 off. Best offer I had beyond that worked out to about $2K off (roughly $500 over invoice), but would have required me to take delivery 2500 miles away.
I couldn't find a dealer that would do TruCar pricing on any car not on their lot. YMMV, obviously, and I didn't scour a ton of dealers.
My local dealers won't budge on MSRP on an ordered MINI - that's the standard response. And according to my nearest dealer, there currently is no 'loyalty program' in effect. (I thought that was a dealer thing and not a MINI USA thing, but whatever). However, they did concede a $1K price cut for dealer loyalty (having purchased 3 MINIs and one BMW from the same dealer) and they will honor whatever the current USAA promo is at the time. (Currently, USAA shows $500 off an S, 2 or 4 door, valid until Jan 2016). I'm also a member of a local credit union that offers a similar deal, so they'll give me the higher amount of the 2. So I'm $1500 off. Best offer I had beyond that worked out to about $2K off (roughly $500 over invoice), but would have required me to take delivery 2500 miles away.
I couldn't find a dealer that would do TruCar pricing on any car not on their lot. YMMV, obviously, and I didn't scour a ton of dealers.
Lol...2500 miles...I have 2 mini dealers that do USAA trucar pricing (I've toyed with getting a gen3)..within 50 miles...
I'm 600-800 miles from you...lol..
Yeah...some dealers know they are the only game in town...and don't haggle...
Maybe you will strength you position saying you bought lots of cars...but if I was negotiation the deal on the other side...I would say...this fish is caught...reel him in....no deal...or just give him the standard... He WILL COME BACK...he is in love with the car+brand....
And one tip...
Have heard most dealers order VERY few higher trim level $$$ cars....harder to get folks to lease...so if you ordered and walked away...a risk...the dealer would be stuck...so they want extra $$ for the risk of having a hard to sell car...
At your price point, the mini is not as compelling as at lower price points, and they don't sell as fast...just too many lower end upmarket cars...even BMW's at the same $$.
I'm 600-800 miles from you...lol..
Yeah...some dealers know they are the only game in town...and don't haggle...
Maybe you will strength you position saying you bought lots of cars...but if I was negotiation the deal on the other side...I would say...this fish is caught...reel him in....no deal...or just give him the standard... He WILL COME BACK...he is in love with the car+brand....
And one tip...
Have heard most dealers order VERY few higher trim level $$$ cars....harder to get folks to lease...so if you ordered and walked away...a risk...the dealer would be stuck...so they want extra $$ for the risk of having a hard to sell car...
At your price point, the mini is not as compelling as at lower price points, and they don't sell as fast...just too many lower end upmarket cars...even BMW's at the same $$.
Last edited by ZippyNH; Mar 15, 2015 at 08:51 AM.
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