While you're at it, it's "ingenuity"

 

wow, way (to,too,Two) bitter. Why are you pissed, because you found some cheap crap for resale for a buck or two. And people out here in NAM are trying (to,too,two) be innovative? Anyway, just showing a different option. And in regards for the personal attacks, they are not needed!!!

Also I dont plan on offering a group buy on anything I make for myself. Most of the products for sale (by,Buy,bye) most companies started out grassroots. But seeing that I already have a motorsports business, It is far from backyard.

 

What if I paint them pink and purple will you buy one from me

 

it was a joke since we are speaking of a engine dampener (dampner)
Some people just cant take a joke.

 

That's not true...we're putting up with you

 

Still wouldn't buy it, but those colors would hide all the flaws.

 

Good one, another insult Sorry but my post was not directed at you Obehave

Partsman, tell me all the flaws

 

It was a joke. That's why I did the smiley thing.
Not intended as an insult. Humor check maybe, insult no.

 

Before this gets out of hand gentlemen. If I harped on anyone (Partsman109)for selling what you are selling, my apologies. I was just trying to stir the pot for creative things, not insults. My notions were to simply get people understanding that adding something more may not be the answer. Is the dampner add on a good idea, yes. But judging by the oil all over your frame rail and my torn upper mount, A better solution must be made. Most people may not benefit from changing all kinds of mounts and brackets.
Fabricating the mount was a must for me since the rubber in the factory one was toast(so bad it put a dent in my hood from the intercooler diverter) So yes their(there) maybe flaws. It works though.
I have friends with a 800+ horsepower Evo and a elastomer dampner as in the one you are offering is the only thing to keep torque controlled. So it does work. www.turbotrix.com

some pictures of the engine with that dampner are on the site

Can we all just get along?

 

Yes we can, but for you to come on here and tell people not to buy this damper because it's just bling is not cool.
I applaud you for fabbing a replacement for the factory setup as we all know it may not be up to par when making more power than stock.

 

wait, this is jcw stuff?

please note for future reference, there is
no such thing as "cheap crap"

 

Let's get something cleared up: it's a damper, isn't it? What's this dampener, or dampner thing? In Australia, damper is a variant of unleavened bread, a dampener is something that when sat on makes your bum all wet, and a dampner is a made up word.
So what is it?

cheers,

 

put in a search for dampner on google and see what comes up. Second I believe via PMs that all is well here on this thread. Can we get back to the first post in this thread and figure out what can be done about the factory engine mount and what would also called the upper torque dampner?

Gandini Your 2k resonance may be your exhaust. I have a Borla w/OBX and the factory cat and it vibrates @ 900 rpm and smooth till redline.

Is this better then(than) bashing each other over spelling?

Also damper, dampener, and dampner all come up w/ the same relative meaning. I think everyone here(hear) has made mistakes.

 

dampener...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dampener

 

ingsoc: that links redirects to the word dashpot, and on that page the only spelling is damper. Thanks for clearing that up. (yes spelling is important)
lambspeed: You may be very right about the exhaust! The damper may not be the cause of the resonance, but simply exacerbating it. I'll keep the damper and learn to live with the vibration.

cheers,

 

yeah, that looks a bit confusing....if you look at the top of the page, wikipedia says, "(Redirected from Dampener)." All three words are interchangeable, according to them, and they just redirect you to one to make it simpler for them. Hope that helps!

 

Can anyone explain the differences, positive, and negatives of the Ireland bushings vs. the TSW dampers?

Thanks

 

again

 

HotRodPilot,

This thread has wandered a bit.

There was a thoughtful previous post about making modifications to the engine bushings that stabilized engine rocking movement but added vibration to the passenger compartment. That post describes the bushing modifications. The bushing solution is complicated by the fact that early cars had a stabilizer rod system with bushings on the passenger side of the engine, and later model cars don't have that stabilizer rod, but rely on a new motor mount style of construction. So, the bushing modifications on later model cars are limited to modification of the driver's side a.k.a. transmission motor mount bushings. My experience is that installing stiffer bushings on the transmission end adds little or no improvement in stability and introduces a lot of vibration, same as previously posted in this thread.

The "damper" is entirely different from the "bushing" approach to stabilizing engine rocking movements. The "damper" is an aftermarket piece that is constructed like a shock absorber that slows down and limits engine rocking movement. A "dashpot" is the same as a "damper" which is the same as a "shock absorber". The real key to effective damper action is to solidly mount the damper to the chassis. Not an easy task.

So, it is considered desireable to limit engine rocking motion. Early cars get good engine control by replacing the stock rubber bushings with stiffer aftermarket bushing in the passenger side control rod system. Later cars can get some improvement in engine movement control by installing a "damper".

Actually your question had long been answered in this thread. The lack of response is probably because people feel that you aren't taking in the information already presented. Read carefully.

Regards,
John Petrich in Seattle