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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Yes. I read about all these dampers on a Honda tuner site, (nearly all dampers are made to fit Hondas--they must have sloppy motor mounts!) and the claim was that all units are pretty generic. Certainly mine looks like an Ingalls and works very much the same way, with similar materials and design elements.
I'd say go with the group buy, as it's mighty cheap!
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Just spoke with a guy at Top Speed Auto to ask about mounting these close to the engine... apparently they've been selling them for a while with no complaints about heat breaking them down. Sooooo... sign me up for a silver one. For only $40 I could replace this twice for the cost of a single Ingalls. I need it by early July, though, so everyone else hurry up and jump on this group buy.

FWIW, Top Speed Auto seems to have a decent-sized facility. Also, the website http://www.topspeedauto.com/ProductC...?idCategory=62 indicates the dampers are imported from Japan.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Sign me up for silver or blue!
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pure&simple
Just spoke with a guy at Top Speed Auto to ask about mounting these close to the engine... apparently they've been selling them for a while with no complaints about heat breaking them down.
Are you sure they weren't talking about the applications using the brackets they provide for various applications (e.g. Honda Civics)?

Mounting it to the block like that is going to transfer quite a bit more heat into the assembly... JMHO...
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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I have experienced an annoying vibration at 2300rpm with the damper that was not obvious without it. I presume my engine has some kind of fundamental harmonic at that rpm. It rattles the dash and is quite obvious through the steering wheel, pedals and seat. I will change the urethane bumpers out for the rubber ones and see if that dampens the resonance. At the moment, I'd say the engine damper is a 50/50 proposition: the upside is just about even with the downside. More time will have to pass before I make a final judgment.

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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gandini
I have experienced an annoying vibration at 2300rpm with the damper that was not obvious without it. I presume my engine has some kind of fundamental harmonic at that rpm. It rattles the dash and is quite obvious through the steering wheel, pedals and seat. I will change the urethane bumpers out for the rubber ones and see if that dampens the resonance. At the moment, I'd say the engine damper is a 50/50 proposition: the upside is just about even with the downside. More time will have to pass before I make a final judgment.

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Are you aware of any others who have experienced this? Perhaps this would go away if it were mounted differently - i.e. to the engine cradle rather than the block... For $40 I'm willing to try it anyway.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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What's the count so far? I see 13.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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13 it is. Still waiting to hear back from Mark Ferguson re: vendor status arrangements.....
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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13 it is. Still waiting to hear back from Mark Ferguson re: vendor status arrangements.....
Am I in that 13?
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Am I in that 13?
Yes you are!!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Add me to the list for a Red one.

Thanks!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Please add me to the list for a Silver one.

Thanks!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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lotf, sorry, i got lost reading past posts. is the group buy for the one partsman showed in post # 74? if so i'd like to toss in my $40, which post shows the right colors?
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PrplPplEtr
lotf, sorry, i got lost reading past posts. is the group buy for the one partsman showed in post # 74? if so i'd like to toss in my $40, which post shows the right colors?
The one in the pic I posted of it mounted on my car is the silver one. I'll wait for Shoe(LOTF) to chime in on the other colors, I don't know where that post is.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pure&simple

FWIW, Top Speed Auto seems to have a decent-sized facility. Also, the website http://www.topspeedauto.com/ProductC...?idCategory=62 indicates the dampers are imported from Japan.
Here's the info as presented in their website, and I would interpret the wording differently than you have ---, i.e., "You don't have to order a damper from Japan; parts are imported (? China) and assembled in the U.S." They do not say or imply the dampers (or parts) are imported from Japan.

"Top Speed Engine Torque Damper Kit
No more special order from Japan, Now offers in USA. Our ETD is a new innovative designed. during hard driving conditions by reduced engine vibration will increase horsepower to the flywheel. Also ensure more reliability for your Factory OE motor mounts. This units definitely brings out the attention of all enthusiasts for street, race, show events. ETD includes all mounting bolts & hardwares.
Assembled in USA"

 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RECOOP
quote from Top Speed:
... during hard driving conditions by reduced engine vibration will increase horsepower to the flywheel. ...
I thought I understood how engine dampers (that link the engine to the chassis/frame) work, but this quote makes me think not. How does it increase HP at the flywheel? Maybe power transfer to the wheels by reducing torque induced windup of the drivetrain, or reducing the initial movement of the drivetrain relative to the wheels/contact patch, but HP inside the engine?
My experience suggests one downside to be excitation of harmonic resonances in the engine or engine/body system due to the more rigid connection between the engine and car body. Mine is at approx. 2300 rpm. Its effect was reduced by going to rubber bumpers over urethane bumpers in the damper.

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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gandini
I thought I understood how engine dampers (that link the engine to the chassis/frame) work, but this quote makes me think not.
it's not you.

"Now offers in USA." "This units definitely brings out the attention of all enthusiasts" "during hard driving conditions by reduced engine vibration will increase horsepower to the flywheel."

it's just bad (probably automated) translation from japanese to english.

and it sounds like what they were translating in the first place was ad copy, not technical info.

read the "manual" with some cheap electronics for more confusion...


 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Any update on this possible group buy?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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post 83: Add me to list for mini damper in silver
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kentiki
Any update on this possible group buy?
Just ironing out the details for vendor status....

Have 18 people interested so far (myself included).

The thread I started will get "un-hidden" as soon as an agreement has been reached.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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lotf u have pm..
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheFlies
Just ironing out the details for vendor status....

Have 18 people interested so far (myself included).

The thread I started will get "un-hidden" as soon as an agreement has been reached.
Thanks LOTF!

Ken
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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I emailed you yesterday to put myself on the purchase list. Let me know how to pay.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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SteveS we are not at that stage yet.

I still have to iron out the vendor-status details and determine final pricing.

The bolts that I got were not the right length - one is too long, and one is just a bit too short......

Thus I will have to find a economically viable solution to that problem.

Also looking to get some nice easy to follow instructions put together (pics and all).

Will let everyone know when we get to the payment stage.

Thanks.
 
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