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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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I got mine from LOTF who got it on eBay. There is already a threaded hole in the block that just happened to be the same thread as the bolt that came with the damper. The frame already has a hole too. If you have a catch can, this type of mounting will be perfect.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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Partsman, for innovation. I was looking in around in the engine bay last night wondering if that was possible. How much disassembly was required to install it like that?

Could you comment on the results - effectiveness in reducing engine slop and side-affect of cabin vibration?

EDIT: you have an 03, so it might not work for my 05... I'll have to look.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pure&simple
EDIT: you have an 03, so it might not work for my 05... I'll have to look.
LOTF has the later style mount and installed it like mine, it will work.
There was no disassembly at all.
I could definitely tell a difference after the install, the car felt a little "tighter" on acceleration. There is a little vibration at idle, though.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Arly
Partsman,
Where did you get your dampener? Is there a hole in the block that you mounted to? Did you have to drill a hole in the frame to attach to as well on the other side of the dampener? I have a catch can in the area that most guys are mounting these dampeners and I like it that you set it up the way you do.

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I have the same damper as Partsman (in fact I got it for him for his birthday!)

You don't need to drill anything. There is a hole already on the side of the block and the bolts that came with the damper fit right in (had to shorten the bolt a little as it's a tight fit).

You can see the difference when the engine is idling compared to a stock car - there is almost no vibration.

You can feel the difference when pulling out of a stop.....and in general there is less engine movement and you can feel a bit more vibration in the steering wheel (very slight).

It took about 10 minutes to saw off the bolt and install. Very easy.

Best part is the fact that it doesn't cost ANYWHERE as much as others I have seen for sale.....

And again, no need for any brackets or any modification other than the bolts.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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LOTF & Partsman - very helpful, thanks! Looks like this will be a bit easier than I thought.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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I'd like to try a limiting strap between the engine side of the motor mounts and the frame rails to reduce the movement when getting on and off the gas, yet I do not want anything that increases NVH at idle or cruise. I'm picturing a braided flat stainless strap attached in something like this orientation:

I agree.. a much better approach. Maybe a small hydraulic shock to absorb the movement without transmitting NVH.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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LOTF,
can I still get on ebay? Where can I buy this other than ebay?
Thanks All,
ARLY
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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There is minimal vibration at idle/cruise. I mean you really have to try hard to notice it.

Anybody interested in a group buy? I'm going to be needing one for my 06 MCS....

I think Partsman would need one for his other car as well......

Please post if you are interested

So far:

LOTF - Silver
Partsman - Silver
JohnD - Silver
Uptick - Silver
Arly - Silver
RedFury - Silver
Kentiki - Silver
PoonRacing - Red
PMC - Silver
MSFITOY - Red
Pure&simple - Silver
04SDmini - Silver or Blue
Heyduard - Silver
TrickleX - Red
CoolDaddy - Silver
PrplPplEtr - Undecided
sprp85 - REd
SteveS - Silver
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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I'd possibly be interested for my 05 S. What's the approx price?

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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I would like one as well. PRICE??
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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If I can get 20 people for the group buy I can swing something very reasonable around the $40 area shipped.

They come in RED, BLUE or SILVER.

If you want to get it yourself it would be $55 shipped per unit.

Pretty damn good compared to $160 + shipping per unit, eh?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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I'm in, will it work with an '02?

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Works with all years.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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I'm in in Silver by the way.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Btw Silver = natural finish (unpainted as seen in the pic).
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Is the Red really Red or pfunk pink???
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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More like pink and the blue is more like aqua....
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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I'm in for Silver.
ARLY
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Post #83 has the list of peeps interested.

Keep 'em coming.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gandini
The brackets are 2" angle iron, which was available and I could work it without having to weld (I don't have that facility.) The top bracket is fitted to the motor mount and is possibly the "weakest" link--time will tell if the 8mm diameter bolt that holds the earth strap is sufficiently big enough for the loads. The frame bracket uses 2 12mm bolts and is pretty sturdy, with all the forces working in the right direction. The NRG damper unit is the same as the Ingalls unit.
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I'd think that aluminum ear would come off before you shear that bolt.

Just being dramatic
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Nice find LOTF.
Curious though why anyone with the older style motor mounts would go this route instead of the Powerflex bushing inserts.
Not saying good or bad just interested in peoples thoughts.

Nice install too.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Thanks Obehave - I found the shockers and Partsman found the method! He had the old style and I had the new.

Been running it now for a few weeks and everything is great (other than the fact that I initially cut my bolt too short and will need to replace it).

Being that this took only minutes and did not require any jacking of the engine or removal of existing parts, I'd say this is a quick and efficient way to enhance the stability of the engine without doing too much.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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LOTF, the group buy is for the Ingalls damper, correct? I understand it may be a rebranded Ingalls, but I'd like to know who actually manufactured it before I jump on board. Thanks!
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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I've sent an e-mail to my contact re: the manufacturer.

I have seen Ingalls dampers on eBay for quite a bit more (like ~$150+ shipping), NRG dampers for around $100......
 
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