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Old Jan 18, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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Noise maker/hot side muffler delete. Quick, easy cheap.

Guys,
Quick and easy way to increase flow in your turbo plumbing!

Noise maker delete...
This is the noise maker.




Buy this from Lowes...



Cut the tube and insert



Hot side muffler delete...
2" OD aluminum pipe



Before and after!





Done! No obstructions in your air flow. About $15...
 
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Old Jan 18, 2016 | 08:18 PM
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Nice job!
 
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Old Apr 10, 2016 | 03:19 PM
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Genius, I just paid $70 for an aluminum pipe with a sticker. I might just sent it back and go to the hardware store. Thanks for the great and simple idea.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:51 PM
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Nicely done. +1 for ingenuity and rollin up the sleeves. However, if the 2" tube doesn't have them already make sure to take the pipe and have a bead rolled on the ends. If the tube is cut straight it will blow off. Just one of those when, not if kinda things.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tigger2011
However, if the 2" tube doesn't have them already make sure to take the pipe and have a bead rolled on the ends. If the tube is cut straight it will blow off. Just one of those when, not if kinda things.
Here's a cheap way to bead roll your tube. I did mine this way and it's been perfect.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/tech...ad-roller.html

I also used one of these to block off the noisemaker hole. Can't remember the exact size I bought, but it was a PITA to put in, but it and the bolt will not fall out. FYI, make sure the bolt comes through from the inside and the nut is on the outside. That way, if the nut comes loose, it doesn't fall inside your engine.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 07:17 AM
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Here's a cheap way to bead roll your tube. I did mine this way and it's been perfect.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/tech...ad-roller.html

I also used one of these to block off the noisemaker hole. Can't remember the exact size I bought, but it was a PITA to put in, but it and the bolt will not fall out. FYI, make sure the bolt comes through from the inside and the nut is on the outside. That way, if the nut comes loose, it doesn't fall inside your engine.
Napa has this part for $3.79. My local store had to order it because it is not a size they carry. The part number is 600-4004 and the name on the box is "Core Hole Plug". The number under the bar code is 19495 57533 7. I installed mine when I was walnut blasting the intake valves and it took a few minutes. I've had it on for a few weeks and have had no issues.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bugeye1031
Napa has this part for $3.79. My local store had to order it because it is not a size they carry. The part number is 600-4004 and the name on the box is "Core Hole Plug". The number under the bar code is 19495 57533 7. I installed mine when I was walnut blasting the intake valves and it took a few minutes. I've had it on for a few weeks and have had no issues.
Follow up -
I put in my rebuilt turbo a few days ago and this plug popped out on the highway on my way home tonight. Had to get towed the rest of the way. I'll find another solution....
 
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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bugeye1031
Follow up -
I put in my rebuilt turbo a few days ago and this plug popped out on the highway on my way home tonight. Had to get towed the rest of the way. I'll find another solution....
Was it just a stock turbo?Curious, how much boost were you hitting?
I ask because I had to use a hydraulic press to get mine in, before I even tightened the nut. I can't imagine this thing popping out. In fact, I've had the charge pipe pop off a couple times until I updated to band-clamps. This thing is still in place.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2016 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hidperf
Was it just a stock turbo?Curious, how much boost were you hitting?
I ask because I had to use a hydraulic press to get mine in, before I even tightened the nut. I can't imagine this thing popping out. In fact, I've had the charge pipe pop off a couple times until I updated to band-clamps. This thing is still in place.
Mine went in easier than that....not sure why the difference. I wasn't watching at the time and wasn't logging. I'm running an AccessPort Stage 1 tune with Alta intercooler....upgraded the turbo to JCW specs when I had it rebuilt.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 09:02 AM
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One could also buy a small pipe to replace the one that routes off to the noise maker as well no?

I definitely like your idea though.

As far as the hot side resonator I ended up replacing the whole tube after having a little pipe that wasn't rolled. So under high boost it would blow off.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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Decided to go the easy but expensive route - $81.80

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2612079/
 
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bugeye1031
Decided to go the easy but expensive route - $81.80

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2612079/
I assume that's the stock on on N18 motors
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Spade
I assume that's the stock on on N18 motors
Yes, that's correct. Installation was smooth....I'm not sure of the material, but it's not very flexible, but it isn't hard plastic. It came with new hose clamps.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bugeye1031
Yes, that's correct. Installation was smooth....I'm not sure of the material, but it's not very flexible, but it isn't hard plastic. It came with new hose clamps.
I used this also to delete my noise maker. Got it from the dealer for about the same price.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 04:26 PM
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Can you comment on what differences you felt \ noticed after this?
Thanks
 
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Old Jun 10, 2018 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by thesilkiest
Can you comment on what differences you felt \ noticed after this?
Thanks
yes I’m interested in the results as well. I’m going to be replacing my turbo as soon as it gets delivered, I have the pre-Intercooler pipe in the way to delete the resonator. I have been looking for a good way to smooth out the air-flow from the other side of the Intercooler to the intake, but have been having trouble finding something that looks effective to me (low cost is a definite bonus)
 
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Old Jun 10, 2018 | 12:55 PM
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As for deleting the noise-maker, can a guy just cut a piece of tubing and clamp it in place of the piece that diverts to the noise-maker (like on the other one)? I honestly have no clue if this is possible or not, but seems like it would be a quick and cheap way to go, as opposed to spending $105 which is what that pipe is selling for now. I found another replacement option that costs $230+, and honestly, it looks like a piece of anodized aluminum tubing clamped between two hoses!
 

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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 01:39 AM
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Noise delete

Originally Posted by MartinR56
Guys,
Quick and easy way to increase flow in your turbo plumbing!

Noise maker delete...
This is the noise maker.




Buy this from Lowes...



Cut the tube and insert



Hot side muffler delete...
2" OD aluminum pipe



Before and after!





Done! No obstructions in your air flow. About $15...
+1
Did exactly the same why pay expensive hoses when you can invent the same purpose... Only the looks. Right on!
 
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Old Apr 3, 2019 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGrumpy
As for deleting the noise-maker, can a guy just cut a piece of tubing and clamp it in place of the piece that diverts to the noise-maker (like on the other one)? I honestly have no clue if this is possible or not, but seems like it would be a quick and cheap way to go, as opposed to spending $105 which is what that pipe is selling for now. I found another replacement option that costs $230+, and honestly, it looks like a piece of anodized aluminum tubing clamped between two hoses!

Bump, because never answered..... lol


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Old Apr 8, 2019 | 04:33 PM
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So I’ll answer myself...lol

2-1/4” pipe. 2-1/8” would be a touch better, but near impossible to find in a short length.




 
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Old Apr 8, 2019 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SNOOPYS_MINI
So I’ll answer myself...lol

2-1/4” pipe. 2-1/8” would be a touch better, but near impossible to find in a short length.




This is exactly what I did a couple days ago. After replacing my starter and walnut blasting the valves I deleted the noise maker with 2 1/4" exhaust pipe. Very tight at the one elbow but hasn't popped off yet under some spirited short blasts.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 06:55 PM
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It seems like you could leave a piece of the hose going to the noise maker, insert on of these and then put a hose clamp on the tubing as well which would be solid.

https://www.amazon.com/SEACHOICE-Twist-Turn-1-25-Inch-Marine-Neoprene/dp/B002IZHF08/ref=sr_1_47?keywords=1+1%2F4+rubber+plug&qid=1570153772&sr=8-47 https://www.amazon.com/SEACHOICE-Twist-Turn-1-25-Inch-Marine-Neoprene/dp/B002IZHF08/ref=sr_1_47?keywords=1+1%2F4+rubber+plug&qid=1570153772&sr=8-47

 
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 05:04 PM
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Noise Maker Delete

Originally Posted by MrGrumpy
As for deleting the noise-maker, can a guy just cut a piece of tubing and clamp it in place of the piece that diverts to the noise-maker (like on the other one)? I honestly have no clue if this is possible or not, but seems like it would be a quick and cheap way to go, as opposed to spending $105 which is what that pipe is selling for now. I found another replacement option that costs $230+, and honestly, it looks like a piece of anodized aluminum tubing clamped between two hoses!
This is interesting. Could be beefed up a bit, but I like the simplicity.

 
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 02:59 PM
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I actually made the same insert as the YouTube video. You don’t have to cut anything. Plug and play! For fun (and backup I guess) I capped off the end with a nice heat rated silicone cap. The car sounds more organic now. My mechanic might check the boost level for me. Pulls about the same.
 
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