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MartinR56 01-18-2016 07:06 PM

Noise maker/hot side muffler delete. Quick, easy cheap.
 
Guys,
Quick and easy way to increase flow in your turbo plumbing!

Noise maker delete...
This is the noise maker.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...2c78860261.jpg


Buy this from Lowes...

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...47cf693696.jpg

Cut the tube and insert

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...228bc99103.jpg

Hot side muffler delete...
2" OD aluminum pipe

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...f054b6f9f9.jpg

Before and after!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...6cfdd71f22.jpg



Done! No obstructions in your air flow. About $15...

cguzz 01-18-2016 08:18 PM

Nice job!

GrayGhost 04-10-2016 03:19 PM

Genius, I just paid $70 for an aluminum pipe with a sticker. I might just sent it back and go to the hardware store. Thanks for the great and simple idea.

Tigger2011 04-12-2016 06:51 PM

Nicely done. +1 for ingenuity and rollin up the sleeves. :thumbsup: However, if the 2" tube doesn't have them already make sure to take the pipe and have a bead rolled on the ends. If the tube is cut straight it will blow off. Just one of those when, not if kinda things.

hidperf 04-14-2016 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Tigger2011 (Post 4197340)
However, if the 2" tube doesn't have them already make sure to take the pipe and have a bead rolled on the ends. If the tube is cut straight it will blow off. Just one of those when, not if kinda things.

Here's a cheap way to bead roll your tube. I did mine this way and it's been perfect.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/tech...ad-roller.html

I also used one of these to block off the noisemaker hole. Can't remember the exact size I bought, but it was a PITA to put in, but it and the bolt will not fall out. FYI, make sure the bolt comes through from the inside and the nut is on the outside. That way, if the nut comes loose, it doesn't fall inside your engine.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...6071f7a20e.jpg

bugeye1031 06-18-2016 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by hidperf (Post 4198002)
Here's a cheap way to bead roll your tube. I did mine this way and it's been perfect.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/tech...ad-roller.html

I also used one of these to block off the noisemaker hole. Can't remember the exact size I bought, but it was a PITA to put in, but it and the bolt will not fall out. FYI, make sure the bolt comes through from the inside and the nut is on the outside. That way, if the nut comes loose, it doesn't fall inside your engine.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...6071f7a20e.jpg

Napa has this part for $3.79. My local store had to order it because it is not a size they carry. The part number is 600-4004 and the name on the box is "Core Hole Plug". The number under the bar code is 19495 57533 7. I installed mine when I was walnut blasting the intake valves and it took a few minutes. I've had it on for a few weeks and have had no issues.

bugeye1031 07-28-2016 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by bugeye1031 (Post 4218469)
Napa has this part for $3.79. My local store had to order it because it is not a size they carry. The part number is 600-4004 and the name on the box is "Core Hole Plug". The number under the bar code is 19495 57533 7. I installed mine when I was walnut blasting the intake valves and it took a few minutes. I've had it on for a few weeks and have had no issues.

Follow up -
I put in my rebuilt turbo a few days ago and this plug popped out on the highway on my way home tonight. Had to get towed the rest of the way. I'll find another solution....

hidperf 07-28-2016 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by bugeye1031 (Post 4230047)
Follow up -
I put in my rebuilt turbo a few days ago and this plug popped out on the highway on my way home tonight. Had to get towed the rest of the way. I'll find another solution....

Was it just a stock turbo?Curious, how much boost were you hitting?
I ask because I had to use a hydraulic press to get mine in, before I even tightened the nut. :eek2: I can't imagine this thing popping out. In fact, I've had the charge pipe pop off a couple times until I updated to band-clamps. This thing is still in place.

bugeye1031 07-29-2016 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by hidperf (Post 4230059)
Was it just a stock turbo?Curious, how much boost were you hitting?
I ask because I had to use a hydraulic press to get mine in, before I even tightened the nut. :eek2: I can't imagine this thing popping out. In fact, I've had the charge pipe pop off a couple times until I updated to band-clamps. This thing is still in place.

Mine went in easier than that....not sure why the difference. I wasn't watching at the time and wasn't logging. I'm running an AccessPort Stage 1 tune with Alta intercooler....upgraded the turbo to JCW specs when I had it rebuilt.

Dr. Spade 08-03-2016 09:02 AM

One could also buy a small pipe to replace the one that routes off to the noise maker as well no?

I definitely like your idea though.

As far as the hot side resonator I ended up replacing the whole tube after having a little pipe that wasn't rolled. So under high boost it would blow off.

bugeye1031 08-03-2016 09:21 AM

Decided to go the easy but expensive route - $81.80

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2612079/

Dr. Spade 08-03-2016 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by bugeye1031 (Post 4231627)
Decided to go the easy but expensive route - $81.80

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2612079/

I assume that's the stock on on N18 motors

bugeye1031 08-12-2016 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by Dr. Spade (Post 4231713)
I assume that's the stock on on N18 motors

Yes, that's correct. Installation was smooth....I'm not sure of the material, but it's not very flexible, but it isn't hard plastic. It came with new hose clamps.

cguzz 08-12-2016 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by bugeye1031 (Post 4234138)
Yes, that's correct. Installation was smooth....I'm not sure of the material, but it's not very flexible, but it isn't hard plastic. It came with new hose clamps.

I used this also to delete my noise maker. Got it from the dealer for about the same price.

thesilkiest 03-26-2018 04:26 PM

Can you comment on what differences you felt \ noticed after this?
Thanks

MrGrumpy 06-10-2018 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by thesilkiest (Post 4377969)
Can you comment on what differences you felt \ noticed after this?
Thanks

yes I’m interested in the results as well. I’m going to be replacing my turbo as soon as it gets delivered, I have the pre-Intercooler pipe in the way to delete the resonator. I have been looking for a good way to smooth out the air-flow from the other side of the Intercooler to the intake, but have been having trouble finding something that looks effective to me (low cost is a definite bonus)

MrGrumpy 06-10-2018 12:55 PM

As for deleting the noise-maker, can a guy just cut a piece of tubing and clamp it in place of the piece that diverts to the noise-maker (like on the other one)? I honestly have no clue if this is possible or not, but seems like it would be a quick and cheap way to go, as opposed to spending $105 which is what that pipe is selling for now. I found another replacement option that costs $230+, and honestly, it looks like a piece of anodized aluminum tubing clamped between two hoses!

drea-min 06-11-2018 01:39 AM

Noise delete
 

Originally Posted by MartinR56 (Post 4165608)
Guys,
Quick and easy way to increase flow in your turbo plumbing!

Noise maker delete...
This is the noise maker.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...2c78860261.jpg


Buy this from Lowes...

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...47cf693696.jpg

Cut the tube and insert

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...228bc99103.jpg

Hot side muffler delete...
2" OD aluminum pipe

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...f054b6f9f9.jpg

Before and after!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...6cfdd71f22.jpg



Done! No obstructions in your air flow. About $15...

+1
Did exactly the same why pay expensive hoses when you can invent the same purpose... Only the looks. Right on!

SNOOPYS_MINI 04-03-2019 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by MrGrumpy (Post 4397461)
As for deleting the noise-maker, can a guy just cut a piece of tubing and clamp it in place of the piece that diverts to the noise-maker (like on the other one)? I honestly have no clue if this is possible or not, but seems like it would be a quick and cheap way to go, as opposed to spending $105 which is what that pipe is selling for now. I found another replacement option that costs $230+, and honestly, it looks like a piece of anodized aluminum tubing clamped between two hoses!


Bump, because never answered..... lol


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SNOOPYS_MINI 04-08-2019 04:33 PM

So I’ll answer myself...lol

2-1/4” pipe. 2-1/8” would be a touch better, but near impossible to find in a short length.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...35ac2ece8.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...645c6f39e.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...2b4a128df.jpeg

I like mini clubman's 04-08-2019 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by SNOOPYS_MINI (Post 4462255)
So I’ll answer myself...lol

2-1/4” pipe. 2-1/8” would be a touch better, but near impossible to find in a short length.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...35ac2ece8.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...645c6f39e.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...2b4a128df.jpeg

This is exactly what I did a couple days ago. After replacing my starter and walnut blasting the valves I deleted the noise maker with 2 1/4" exhaust pipe. Very tight at the one elbow but hasn't popped off yet under some spirited short blasts.

mini-is-for-me 10-03-2019 06:55 PM

It seems like you could leave a piece of the hose going to the noise maker, insert on of these and then put a hose clamp on the tubing as well which would be solid.


https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg

Jeffrey Daitz 11-16-2022 05:04 PM

Noise Maker Delete
 

Originally Posted by MrGrumpy (Post 4397461)
As for deleting the noise-maker, can a guy just cut a piece of tubing and clamp it in place of the piece that diverts to the noise-maker (like on the other one)? I honestly have no clue if this is possible or not, but seems like it would be a quick and cheap way to go, as opposed to spending $105 which is what that pipe is selling for now. I found another replacement option that costs $230+, and honestly, it looks like a piece of anodized aluminum tubing clamped between two hoses!

This is interesting. Could be beefed up a bit, but I like the simplicity.


Jeffrey Daitz 12-16-2022 02:59 PM

I actually made the same insert as the YouTube video. You don’t have to cut anything. Plug and play! For fun (and backup I guess) I capped off the end with a nice heat rated silicone cap. The car sounds more organic now. My mechanic might check the boost level for me. Pulls about the same.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...618fc9490.jpeg


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