Drivetrain Battle/DNA Tune Thread
From a performance standpoint timing is really only important during hard WOT driving type conditions (warning - this is an extremely generalized statement).
BTW, for readings from the ODBII port timing is limited from +60 to -60.
Yea sorry about the confusion, I'll follow up today with the correct WOT readings.
This is my Manic Tune on Stage 2.5 at 22psi, 6200rpm, 10.5 timing and 12.23 AFR and no Meth. My timing also shows a high of 45, but that was coasting in neutral.
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
Same, this was in Torque. Your have to recorded it. There is no way to drive and watch all the gauges. Do a 4th gear pull, park and watch
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
I couldn't figure out recording the gauges so I recorded a data log instead. It's two 3rd gears pulls on a long uphill, about a minute apart.
My current setup:
Stage 2 non-linear map
Helix FMIC
Stock turbo
stock downpipe
2.5in exhaust with Borla XR1 muffler
My current setup:
Stage 2 non-linear map
Helix FMIC
Stock turbo
stock downpipe
2.5in exhaust with Borla XR1 muffler
Wow, did you not push the sport button? Your coolant temps Are high...😮
I do think the EGTs are pretty high, not sure how to fix that though. Colder spark plugs?
Coolant temps are high? My car routinely sits in the 220s without a problem. And this is an un-tuned motor.
Nice run. Looks like your AFR is a little rich at the end but that's a good thing. You can see as you gain more boost your timing starts to trim back and that is a good thing as well. Your fuel trim shows its pulling fuel with a neg number, I'm not to sure what you can do but I was always told your short trim fuel should be closer to 0. Over all nice trend.....
Thanks for the info.
I'm hoping to get a few goodies on during Xmas holidays and run my next stage. If I have timing issues at that point I will send DNA/Battle a graph.....
Thanks for the info.
I'm hoping to get a few goodies on during Xmas holidays and run my next stage. If I have timing issues at that point I will send DNA/Battle a graph.....
Just to clarify EGT is not coolant temps.
EGTs would be in and around 1350 deg plus @WOT
As far as coolant: my R56 with the manic tune sits steadily at 180deg. But even before the tune, I always saw around 185-190ish deg when sport button is on. BTW I never drive without my sport button engaged.😁
I asked Battle about lowering the fan setting. He said they could not do it. Mine runs around 220 but if I turn the AC on it runs 215. I think the AC turns the fan on sooner or something like that.
I saw how Manic will make your car run cooler as well. This use to be the sh*t back in the day with the V8's but I think the newer cars are finding more economy etc with running the engines hotter. I'm sure you can start a major forum in that department alone. I'm one of the guys who wants it cooler.....
I saw how Manic will make your car run cooler as well. This use to be the sh*t back in the day with the V8's but I think the newer cars are finding more economy etc with running the engines hotter. I'm sure you can start a major forum in that department alone. I'm one of the guys who wants it cooler.....
I asked Battle about lowering the fan setting. He said they could not do it. Mine runs around 220 but if I turn the AC on it runs 215. I think the AC turns the fan on sooner or something like that.
I saw how Manic will make your car run cooler as well. This use to be the sh*t back in the day with the V8's but I think the newer cars are finding more economy etc with running the engines hotter. I'm sure you can start a major forum in that department alone. I'm one of the guys who wants it cooler.....
I saw how Manic will make your car run cooler as well. This use to be the sh*t back in the day with the V8's but I think the newer cars are finding more economy etc with running the engines hotter. I'm sure you can start a major forum in that department alone. I'm one of the guys who wants it cooler.....
I asked Battle about lowering the fan setting. He said they could not do it. Mine runs around 220 but if I turn the AC on it runs 215. I think the AC turns the fan on sooner or something like that.
I saw how Manic will make your car run cooler as well. This use to be the sh*t back in the day with the V8's but I think the newer cars are finding more economy etc with running the engines hotter. I'm sure you can start a major forum in that department alone. I'm one of the guys who wants it cooler.....
I saw how Manic will make your car run cooler as well. This use to be the sh*t back in the day with the V8's but I think the newer cars are finding more economy etc with running the engines hotter. I'm sure you can start a major forum in that department alone. I'm one of the guys who wants it cooler.....
Which is all the more reason why I won't let the dealer "program" the ECU after blasting the valves for carbon buildup. All it does is raise cylinder temps and it already runs hot enough.
How are you running cooler coolant temps? Was you ECU programmed that way?
Wow! I have read all 19 pages on the Battle DNA tune!
I'm coming from the Audi World of Tuners. I had an 01 TT Coupe
Awesome ride! Constant repairs but did all myself so saved big!
So far I love my mini s 09 I installed the cat less Evolve DP pretty simple
Compared to install for the TT
I have a larger no name FMIC did the hot side muffler delete. So far I like
The power yes chirps the wheels in second without tune which is sweet!
Next is the tune and Battle is my choice! Now tuning has slowed as
Per John so I guess I'm waiting please post when I can get your tune!
Would be a great x-mas gift to myself!
I'm coming from the Audi World of Tuners. I had an 01 TT Coupe
Awesome ride! Constant repairs but did all myself so saved big!
So far I love my mini s 09 I installed the cat less Evolve DP pretty simple
Compared to install for the TT
I have a larger no name FMIC did the hot side muffler delete. So far I like
The power yes chirps the wheels in second without tune which is sweet!
Next is the tune and Battle is my choice! Now tuning has slowed as
Per John so I guess I'm waiting please post when I can get your tune!
Would be a great x-mas gift to myself!
I'm not running cooler temps. Im at 226 already. I was saying I'm not in favor of the dealership raising the cylinder temps higher in an effort to curb carbon buildup when it already runs hotter then later build cars.
Raising the cylinder temperatures would definitely keep carbon at bay, but it's bad for the engine especially the valves, wouldn't want a burned valve to lose a small chunk around the edge.




