Drivetrain Operation Hot Air Intake
Did it to my MC, sounds good!!! but need help
Well, i guess i should have read better.... i got a 1550 and it will not fit the TB, so i used the exsisting rubber tube to conect it... no big deal....
Question is this... how do you remove the factory air ducting system... the one that comes off the front grill and is tubed to the factory air box.
the unit has 3 different openings so all the air is not getting to the factory air box...
i want and need the room , so how do you get it out... it shoots straight down and it connected to something on the right side of the car.. can't see what....
any idea's?
Question is this... how do you remove the factory air ducting system... the one that comes off the front grill and is tubed to the factory air box.
the unit has 3 different openings so all the air is not getting to the factory air box...
i want and need the room , so how do you get it out... it shoots straight down and it connected to something on the right side of the car.. can't see what....
any idea's?
It might have been suggested in another post here already...I only read to about page 9 then proceeded to reply....but those that are wondering how to evacuate more hot air out of the engine bay to increase any amount of performance or efficiency; removing the cowl seal at the back of the engine bay will allow a good amount of trapped heat to escape from the back of the hood where it meets the windshield cowl....if this is unclear to anyone, or they don't think it would work, let me know and I can try to explain it better. In my old car, I ran an open cone (hai) intake, and removing the cowl seal improved flow out of the engine bay quite a bit, and kept temps down. Although I was also running a lower temp thermostat as well. I'm going to be ordering the K and N filter for my MINI as well soon....I can never get enough of that SC whine, and I need it just a little louder, plus I just can't justify the cost of the Alta or other CAI's when this seems like a viable option to try out....thanks Cheese and Andy for your efforts and reporting on this...sounds like a promising and great idea...
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Looks good, but every time I see tape holding a throttle body together, I shudder. With all the stuff in your engine bay, looks like the HAI or vaporware AGS are the only options for you!
Has anyone tried to make use of something like this for the HAI?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...944665606&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...944665606&rd=1
Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
Looks good, but every time I see tape holding a throttle body together, I shudder. With all the stuff in your engine bay, looks like the HAI or vaporware AGS are the only options for you!
Originally Posted by JCampos
Has anyone tried to make use of something like this for the HAI?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...944665606&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...944665606&rd=1
Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
You should contact whomever sold you that throttle body and ask them to de-ghetto it. 

There's nothing wrong with the product as it is. I do think it would look better with a clamp and if that's something I can do, then I would. Back to the question, anyone know where I can get one of these clamps?
Well, you'd need to get the band that was originally cut off in order to open up the throttle body. If that was thrown away, you're kind of SOL. But, if you got one, it looks like you could cut and rivet a regular hose clamp to it to reseal it.
P.S. Ghetto is ghetto, no matter how nice the person is who sold it.
P.S. Ghetto is ghetto, no matter how nice the person is who sold it.
Maybe an elastomer?
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
No, I'd rather not talk about Randy that way
There's nothing wrong with the product as it is. I do think it would look better with a clamp and if that's something I can do, then I would. Back to the question, anyone know where I can get one of these clamps?
There's nothing wrong with the product as it is. I do think it would look better with a clamp and if that's something I can do, then I would. Back to the question, anyone know where I can get one of these clamps?Matt
ps, I know where you can get a clamp for about $500, and it comes with a TB attached for free
My company, P&D, has applied for a patent on that clamp; we did it because we can
and should. To cover us, from other companys copying our design and use of materials.
and should. To cover us, from other companys copying our design and use of materials.
Last edited by jlm; Jan 7, 2005 at 09:56 PM.
Hai
Hey, this is my first post. Monkey Grass.
Just put the K&N on my '05 MCS last night. Great mod! You can really hear the sc scream! Cheap too ($55 for both filters @ ajusa).
I used the chrome RC-1540 instead of the 1550 or 1520. It's 1" shorter but has 85% of the surface area of the other two, so not a big loss. It has almost twice the surface area of the stock filter without all the tubing so must breath a lot better. I don't have to worry about the 1540 rubbing the bonnet either.
The car feels quicker but my butt dyno is't calibrated well enough to quantify. Put on the chrome K&N crankcase breather too. Looks good. Sounds good. Feels good. Thanks for the 14 pages of posts on the subject; really helped in my decision.
More mods to come......
Just put the K&N on my '05 MCS last night. Great mod! You can really hear the sc scream! Cheap too ($55 for both filters @ ajusa).
I used the chrome RC-1540 instead of the 1550 or 1520. It's 1" shorter but has 85% of the surface area of the other two, so not a big loss. It has almost twice the surface area of the stock filter without all the tubing so must breath a lot better. I don't have to worry about the 1540 rubbing the bonnet either.
The car feels quicker but my butt dyno is't calibrated well enough to quantify. Put on the chrome K&N crankcase breather too. Looks good. Sounds good. Feels good. Thanks for the 14 pages of posts on the subject; really helped in my decision.
More mods to come......
welcome to the HAI club!
Originally Posted by treadhead
Hey, this is my first post. Monkey Grass.
Just put the K&N on my '05 MCS last night. Great mod! You can really hear the sc scream! Cheap too ($55 for both filters @ ajusa).
I used the chrome RC-1540 instead of the 1550 or 1520. It's 1" shorter but has 85% of the surface area of the other two, so not a big loss. It has almost twice the surface area of the stock filter without all the tubing so must breath a lot better. I don't have to worry about the 1540 rubbing the bonnet either.
The car feels quicker but my butt dyno is't calibrated well enough to quantify. Put on the chrome K&N crankcase breather too. Looks good. Sounds good. Feels good. Thanks for the 14 pages of posts on the subject; really helped in my decision.
More mods to come......
Just put the K&N on my '05 MCS last night. Great mod! You can really hear the sc scream! Cheap too ($55 for both filters @ ajusa).
I used the chrome RC-1540 instead of the 1550 or 1520. It's 1" shorter but has 85% of the surface area of the other two, so not a big loss. It has almost twice the surface area of the stock filter without all the tubing so must breath a lot better. I don't have to worry about the 1540 rubbing the bonnet either.
The car feels quicker but my butt dyno is't calibrated well enough to quantify. Put on the chrome K&N crankcase breather too. Looks good. Sounds good. Feels good. Thanks for the 14 pages of posts on the subject; really helped in my decision.
More mods to come......
Hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
Matt
ECU Mounting
Will do Matt. I already love it. It isn't obnoxiously loud like some think nor do I hear a "tinny" sound. It's not really noticable until I really put my foot in it. But when I do the SC lets you know it's there!
On another note. Has anyone figured a good way to mount the ECU and completely pull out the lower half of the air box? bracket design or something? I saw that the ECU has some mounting ears/holes on the case. Or is there an opinion that ECU shoud be protected as it is in its cubby hole in the airbox?
Thanks,
Doug
On another note. Has anyone figured a good way to mount the ECU and completely pull out the lower half of the air box? bracket design or something? I saw that the ECU has some mounting ears/holes on the case. Or is there an opinion that ECU shoud be protected as it is in its cubby hole in the airbox?
Thanks,
Doug
It's a blistering 18 F and SUNNY
Finally...after 3 month, we're outta the garage
The HAI is working pretty nicely
The dense cold air in combination with the "short" intake seems to help my Mini breath very deeply...I'm seeing a higher boost peak at around 16.5-17psi
...and it's haulln "A" very nicely. Can't wait for M7's AGS...forgot to ask him today, dang. I haven't turn on the N20 bottle for fear of it freezing up in this condition
Finally...after 3 month, we're outta the garage
The HAI is working pretty nicely
...and it's haulln "A" very nicely. Can't wait for M7's AGS...forgot to ask him today, dang. I haven't turn on the N20 bottle for fear of it freezing up in this condition
Originally Posted by jlm
My company, P&D, has applied for a patent on that clamp; we did it because we can
and should. To cover us, from other companys copying our design and use of materials.
and should. To cover us, from other companys copying our design and use of materials.

i've modified over 100 throttle bodies, but most of them were sent off to a distributor who re-assembled them and fitted his own shrink tube "clamp", like yours.
the hard parts about the thorttls body work are the accurate boring, making, fitting the elliptical bfly, dis-and re-assembly and that pesky clamp.
on about 10 tb's, I rigged that clamp you saw, but I need the original clamp band to start with. Assuming I had one of those, figure $25.
In case it was too subtle, that BS about the patent was lifted from the air gain thread.
the hard parts about the thorttls body work are the accurate boring, making, fitting the elliptical bfly, dis-and re-assembly and that pesky clamp.
on about 10 tb's, I rigged that clamp you saw, but I need the original clamp band to start with. Assuming I had one of those, figure $25.
In case it was too subtle, that BS about the patent was lifted from the air gain thread.
Last edited by jlm; Jan 16, 2005 at 06:06 AM.






