Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R56) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain Turbo Wrap...Yeah or Nay?

Old Jul 22, 2013 | 02:58 AM
  #1  
Jonny Crisp's Avatar
Jonny Crisp
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 62
Likes: 1
Turbo Wrap...Yeah or Nay?

My friend has recommended that I wrap the turbo on my Mini. Says it will help spool and be better for the turbo, as well as reducing under hood temps.

I just wanted a little feedback. Any problems or is it all good? Has anyone done this? i was thinking of one of the "lava" wraps. Do I need the "T3" turbo size wrap?

Lots of questions I know but would like a little first hand feedback, and turbo size!

Thanks
Jonny
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 03:56 AM
  #2  
countryboyshane's Avatar
countryboyshane
6th Gear
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,568
Likes: 8
From: Bloomfield, MI
It will help keep the thermal energy inside the turbo and cool down your engine bay a little bit. Performance wise you probably won't notice any difference.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 05:50 AM
  #3  
v10climber's Avatar
v10climber
6th Gear
10 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1,394
Likes: 18
From: FL
Your turbo is already all of 6" from the engine. I doubt you're going to be able to do anything to help spool. If you want to then go for it. But your turbo already has a heatshield.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 06:16 AM
  #4  
Jonny Crisp's Avatar
Jonny Crisp
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 62
Likes: 1
In fairness to the friend he did mention the "performance" aspect would be negligible. He was implying that it is better for the turbo in the long run to retain as much heat as possible within the turbo. I have no idea as to the merit of this idea! It may help with the temp under the bonnet though.

I take it that nobody/very few people have bothered with a heat wrap. I see Way Motor Works selling some...but I guess that doesn't mean they are good, just "sellable"! Sorry, no disrespect to Way intended.

It would seem that wrapping turbo and downpipe is popular with other turboed cars. Why wouldn't it make a difference to the Mini? Just askin'!
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 06:37 AM
  #5  
05r50's Avatar
05r50
5th Gear
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 706
Likes: 10
From: Hilliard, Ohio
I'm not sure this the right track to take.
Your turbo is lubricated with engine oil and that oil gets very hot thanks to the fact that the catalytic converter is right next to the turbo. The oil is cooking in the turbo. The turbine shaft floats in a journal bearing soaked in oil. Over time coking of the oil wears out these parts.

I just went thru a failed turbo and when you look at it you can see that the seals around the turbine shaft were leaking. That means oil was being pushed out both sides. The exhaust and the intercooler. I ended up replacing the cat and the inter cooler because of oil saturation.

So, in my opinion you want to extract heat from the turbo not hold it in.
The auxiliary water pump for the turbo only runs for a few minutes after you turn off the car. Use a infrared thermometer on your turbo and cat housing after you turn it off. It will be way hotter than you think.

The turbo wrap will certainly help reduce the heat in the engine bay.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 07:13 AM
  #6  
ltjpunk7's Avatar
ltjpunk7
4th Gear
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Probably not necessary. Shouldn't cause any long term damage to the bearings, but can never be sure.

Alternative view: This may be a stretch--especially since I haven't heard of a lot of people having issues--but I would think theoretically that having one of these would be most beneficial if you had one of the afermarket heat shields that sits above the turbo/DP (M7, AEM, etc). The reason I say this is because these types of shields are designed primarily to decrease under-bonnet temps, mainly for protection of the hood scoop or for preventing hot air from tracking back to an aftermarket open filter intake. The problem I could possibly see with these heat shields is that they could deflect turbine heat onto the center bearing cartridge and compressor snail. This seems a little scary to me, and I would think bad for turbo longevity.

With that said, I have an AEM heat shield...
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 07:33 AM
  #7  
MiniWii's Avatar
MiniWii
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 105
Likes: 1
From: NY
Yes wrapping your turbo will help spool as it will make the turbo hotter, therefore the hot air from the hotside will move out of the exhaust faster. It's definitely not better for your turbo. Your turbo will wear out faster and fail at an earlier age due too all that excess heat it can't get rid of(think of why it's water/oil cooled) . It's not worth the 300 dollars for a turbo blanket. Take the 300 dollars and buy a heat shield. Keep the motor and the IAT's down and you'll see better performance.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 07:34 AM
  #8  
Beachnmini's Avatar
Beachnmini
4th Gear
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 375
Likes: 0
From: Fort Myers, Fl
Yeah, I'm on the fence about a heat shield. I just bought a 2011 clubman S/auto. It's a fun as hell daily driver, but notta racer unfortunately. I've read there was a factory fix for the hood melting, but under mine is empty space. It gets kinda hot here and you can sit in traffic a bit. I don't want my hood to melt..
The more I read this forum, the more I'm scared to drive it, lol.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 07:36 AM
  #9  
MiniWii's Avatar
MiniWii
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 105
Likes: 1
From: NY
Originally Posted by Beachnmini
Yeah, I'm on the fence about a heat shield. I just bought a 2011 clubman S/auto. It's a fun as hell daily driver, but notta racer unfortunately. I've read there was a factory fix for the hood melting, but under mine is empty space. It gets kinda hot here and you can sit in traffic a bit. I don't want my hood to melt..
The more I read this forum, the more I'm scared to drive it, lol.
Hey beach, You should have some kind of cloth like material protecting your hood from heat. Your turbo shouldn't be able to heat your hood up enough to melt it. If you want to play just be safe and get a turbo heat shield to protect your hood and motor from excess heat.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 07:51 AM
  #10  
Beachnmini's Avatar
Beachnmini
4th Gear
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 375
Likes: 0
From: Fort Myers, Fl
Thanks, there's nothing there. I bought it certified from a dealer, maybe I'll have to check with them.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 09:59 AM
  #11  
Jonny Crisp's Avatar
Jonny Crisp
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 62
Likes: 1
Cheers everyone.

Methinks a turbo wrap will do more harm than good.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 05:43 PM
  #12  
cerenkov's Avatar
cerenkov
6th Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,101
Likes: 29
From: Raleigh, NC
Originally Posted by Beachnmini
Thanks, there's nothing there. I bought it certified from a dealer, maybe I'll have to check with them.
I just got a 2013 MCS and the hood is bare, no insulation or anything.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 05:47 PM
  #13  
gregsmini's Avatar
gregsmini
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 470
Likes: 1
From: Harleysville PA
Interesting timing of this post. I ordered the Turbo Wrap from Way yesterday. I want to cool the under hood temps and I thought the turbo wrap would be the best option. I need to replace the turbo oil line and I thought while I had things apart, this would be best time to install the wrap.

I really don't know that the wrap is detrimental to the turbo, it should be designed for the heat. Here is a link to an article that discusses the benefits of the wrap: http://www.importtuner.com/tech/impp..._fact_fiction/.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 09:17 PM
  #14  
nrfitchett4's Avatar
nrfitchett4
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
From: San Antonio
Originally Posted by MiniWii
Hey beach, You should have some kind of cloth like material protecting your hood from heat. Your turbo shouldn't be able to heat your hood up enough to melt it. If you want to play just be safe and get a turbo heat shield to protect your hood and motor from excess heat.
I have something installed, black fabric looking stuff connected to the hood around the scoop. I'm not sure when it was installed, but I have a warped scoop (bought car used).
Mini sells turbo heat shields for about 100 bucks, but I'm thinking of going the AEM intake route and it comes with one.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
NYMADMINI
Drivetrain (Cooper S)
13
Dec 14, 2016 02:33 PM
GAT
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
6
Oct 4, 2015 07:27 PM
ECSTuning
Vendor Announcements
0
Oct 1, 2015 12:13 PM
M7Speed
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
0
Oct 1, 2015 07:05 AM
EVMini
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
4
Sep 28, 2015 10:20 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:53 AM.