Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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What kind of power do you think

My goal is I want to make over 200 whp with my 04 mcs I am ordering a 17% pulley light weight flywheel msd ignition with colder plugs jcw 330 injectors alta cai jcw exhaust and a tune what's your guys opinion any other advice you can give me from experience?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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If I was doing it I'd go for the 15%, CAI, Mynes Header, JCW exhaust and Thumper Ported Intake. I'd forget the flywheel, MSD, Plugs and JCW injectors for now.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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Try JCW 380's...hope the jcw330 is a misprint.....older jcw cars(pre2005, without the jcw210 kit) were sold with stock injectors....so i hope you did not get screwed on the purchase....
Might need a cam or headder...a low mile car eith a good engine CAN hit 200 with those mods...but as the miles and age add up.....becomes more unlikely.
The important thing is a safe tune.....
How many miles on the car? Compression readings?
And you know a lightweight FLYWHEEL does MAKE more power but just changes throttle response right...let tge motor rev quicker, but not actually MAKE more hp. Guess if you are doing a clutch, might as well if you can put up will the lightweight flywheel on hill starts and heavy traffic....
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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Yes I'm sorry misprint and I am aware that the flywheel does not get me more power I was just stating the things I wanted to do not all of those were to try to gain hp
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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What is you elevation? Altitude DOES effect power output with a sc a bit....much more so than a turbo....
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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And miles on the car and SC?
Would suggest a NEW 532 or 535 length belt...alta ships with a belt that is a bit too long and will slip.
You plan sounds pretty sound, depending on miles, 200 was a good estimate for a 40,000 mile car that was 4 ish years old....now with a 10 year old car, condition matters much more.....but if healthy, 190-200 is a good guess if at sealevel on an HONEST dyno...some brands always read hi...remember, a dyno is more of a before and after tool....to see tha gain, than the actual hp....
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 04:53 PM
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It sounds like it will be hard to get 200 out of it it has 90k on it now and I was planing on going with that belt I heard the alta one slipped but I am also in Ohio I haven't ordered anything yet so if anyone has suggestion please say so I would appreciate it
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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Bang for the buck, i would keep the stock coil, unless you have corrosion on the plugs...mine did, but several tuners say stock is actually a better coil.
I would take the $$ saved, and install a bigger rear swaybar...
Intake comes down to preference...all about the same gain. Pulley choice is a bit of a crapshoot.....i like the 17% for my driving style....but folks that like to redline/auto-x, MIGHT do better with a 15...
pure numbers asside, you build propsed build is close to mine, but a year older, so no coated sc. But i was right at 200 hp on a 100°+ day at sealevel...on a pretty harsh dyno that most said read low...
But numbers aside, the gains in drivability ARE amazing. At 200 hp, not sure i would want/need more hp unless it was just to brag...i mean my car has been a good, 100% reliable daily driver since my tune, great on the street, lots of tourqe down low compared to stock.
With some mods, you loose "drivability", meaning the car is not as easy or fun to drive...
Lighweight flywheels are in that group, cams can add great mid or upper range power, and a bigvalve head can head, move the tq band even higher....more like a race car, but not as great on the street.
So i decided i wanted good reliability, and just more of the MINI feel i already liked.
Added a swaybar to make turns more fun, and WOW, a blast to drive.
Just pick your goal...power to brag about a number, a highstrung race car, etc, and go from there.
many folks here with tons of "been there, done that" for advise to help give you info!!
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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Ya I'm going to go with the 17% I rarely go to redline sounds like the flywheel is a waste of money
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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I had a 04 with CAI, 15%, Header and Catback that dynoed 196whp and the car had 76k on it two years ago this summer. Every engine is different. Have you had your's dynoed?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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No I have not and kinda a **** in the woods but does anyone know a good place to get it tuned around Dayton Ohio?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 06:36 AM
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You can see my mods in my sig and I am putting her on the dyno tomorrow. I'll post up numbers after my pulls It should give you some kind of idea...
 
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 06:48 AM
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As you know, every engine is slightly different. If you've been blessed with a strong runner from the factory, then it should be achievable.

I cracked the 200 whp barrier with only a 15% reduction pulley, Alta intake, cat-back exhaust from Milltek, and tune from Jan (RMW). Jan did say that my engine was "pretty strong" for one with stock internals. That was a nice bonus.

No injectors, no cam, no aftermarket head or pistons. All external, bolt-on stuff.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Sounds good I will check them out when you get them posted

That's not bad at all hopefully I am surprised with what I end up with
 
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OldGameFreaK
You can see my mods in my sig and I am putting her on the dyno tomorrow. I'll post up numbers after my pulls It should give you some kind of idea...
What did you get?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 01:01 AM
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You could go with a pulley and a mild cam and easily be over 200.
the stock intake works well its just quiet.
same with the stock exhaust.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 02:42 AM
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What kind of cam do you recommend?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 10:43 AM
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Looks like the dyno was messed up
 

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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 12:44 PM
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This might be a dumb question but I'm new to this how do I check your sig to see your mods?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by R53minime
This might be a dumb question but I'm new to this how do I check your sig to see your mods?

You can see the mods displayed on bottom of his post.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Oh I'm on my phone it doesn't show that stuff
 
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