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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 12:38 AM
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Being a piggy back I assume it will work on a Euro spec car(I'm in Australia), mines a 2008 MCSa and I'm close to getting the Evolve tune. Seeing as I have w/m & dp I'm guessing Evolves stage 2 would suite me better it's just the price comparison that's got me thinking maybe I should hold off and wait for this instead.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scubbysnacks
Being a piggy back I assume it will work on a Euro spec car(I'm in Australia), mines a 2008 MCSa and I'm close to getting the Evolve tune. Seeing as I have w/m & dp I'm guessing Evolves stage 2 would suite me better it's just the price comparison that's got me thinking maybe I should hold off and wait for this instead.
the JB+ will only work for the N18 engine. your 2008 is an N14, so it wouldn't work either way.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 01:22 AM
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If that's the case I guess it's time to pull the trigger on the Evolve remap.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scubbysnacks
If that's the case I guess it's time to pull the trigger on the Evolve remap.
Or wait for the N14 version of the JB+
 
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by borderwave2
Or wait for the N14 version of the JB+
could be a bit of a wait.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-post1660.html
 
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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A long wait for sure but look at the extras logging,gauge hijacking and map switching sounds so sweet but I don't think I can wait that long to enjoy the car at it's full potential. Evolve keeps saying that they'll be incorporating logging into their software but it hasn't happened.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
Borrowed an N14 for a bit and was able to get the CAN Tool programmed for it. I also poked around at the tuning and the sensors / DME logic is very different than the N18 so at least for now we won't commit to doing any tuning for them. Realistically the Cobb AP is the best tuning solution for N14 owners currently. I'm not sure why Alta has a strangle hold on the tuning interface but hopefully Cobb releases it to other tuners. I'd be happy to help make you guys a rocking AP map if they'd release the editor software to us.
Terry, I believe if you call Cobb and/or Alta, they will probably sell you a license of the tuning software. Please?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jomama
The said the exact same thing about N18 development when I asked in April. Two months later they had a working prototype.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ooper-s-2.html

Keep hope alive
 
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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I am very interested in the E85 and meth maps as well! So glad to hear Burger Tuning supporting the N18, they did a phenomenal job on the N54/N55 platform. Definitely interested and ready as soon as it's released!!
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 06:16 AM
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i will be one happy guy with my countryman s when the Burger Tuning N18 JB+ is released and its at a good price. any estimate on release date?
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ayk07
i will be one happy guy with my countryman s when the Burger Tuning N18 JB+ is released and its at a good price. any estimate on release date?
idk but reading this post made me laugh. a few pages back they say it will be released in a month or two. They are wrapping up "beta" testing right now with local clients.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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i will be one happy guy with my countryman s when the Burger Tuning N18 JB+ is released and its at a good price. any estimate on release date?
I don't. So far I've got around 5 local early adopters and I want to get that up to at least 10 so I can get a comfort level that any bugs are worked out, etc, before we start shipping across the country. So if anyone knows anyone with an N18 interested in tuning in the socal area (close to 93065) drop me an email.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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Quick one for you Terry. I know you are shooting for reliability with the JB+ which is the reason you are going for moderate gains and about 16-17psi. that is basically perfect for what i'm looking for. But on the flip side. 200whp 220wtq is my goal. that's what i want to hit. I know the tune alone isn't going to get me there, but do you believe with this tune and the appropriate bolt on's that those numbers are achievable on your tune?
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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I'm going to say that that'll be easily attainable.

If you look at Terry's dyno graph and observe the deltas...it was 20whp/ 38ish wtq.

Now this is where I might get flamed, but take it as an example....

A few pages back, a guy posted his baseline run as 172whp/184wtq....not sure if he was bone stock or what octane he was using, but that was his run.

If you grab his numbers and throw on the JB+ along with 93 octane gas, it would bring him up to 192whp / 222wtq. Possibly even slightly higher if he used 91 for the baseline, then switched to 93.....
(Now there a far more variables than what I have shown, which will obviously change up the numbers).....but you get the basic idea.

This works...unlike Unichip, Racechip, and a bunch of other pos chips out there.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NewCooperFanatic
I'm going to say that that'll be easily attainable.

If you look at Terry's dyno graph and observe the deltas...it was 20whp/ 38ish wtq.

Now this is where I might get flamed, but take it as an example....

A few pages back, a guy posted his baseline run as 172whp/184wtq....not sure if he was bone stock or what octane he was using, but that was his run.

If you grab his numbers and throw on the JB+ along with 93 octane gas, it would bring him up to 192whp / 222wtq. Possibly even slightly higher if he used 91 for the baseline, then switched to 93.....
(Now there a far more variables than what I have shown, which will obviously change up the numbers).....but you get the basic idea.

This works...unlike Unichip, Racechip, and a bunch of other pos chips out there.
The only thing that's hard to gauge on stock mini dyno's is did the technician doing the run trigger overboost. because if they didn't. and the factory car is rated at 181hp. that's only a 9hp drivetrainloss. and even with overboost the car is 191hp i believe. and that would be a 19hp drivetrain loss. Dyno's also play a lot of factor. i know this. but anywho. they have a extremely well calibrated mustang dyno at my hometown. it's at an automotive college so it's calibrated a few times for each class that goes through. once i get JB+ and all my bolt ons i'll take it up there.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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At the end of the day, that'll be the best bet for anyone.

Get a baseline run with your bolt ons, then install the JB+ and be amazed lol


Overboost only affects torque....177 stock, bumps up to 192 with overboost. Looks like overboost was triggered on his run.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NewCooperFanatic
At the end of the day, that'll be the best bet for anyone.

Get a baseline run with your bolt ons, then install the JB+ and be amazed lol


Overboost only affects torque....177 stock, bumps up to 192 with overboost. Looks like overboost was triggered on his run.
I did not know overboost only affected torque. learn something new everyday
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 06:06 PM
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Terry, just wondering if you could work the 'sport' button into the tune at some stage? For example, with sport off: 15-20hp/25-30tq gain, with sport on: full power (based on mods, more advanced tune).

And are you able to control the heavier steering and/or auto trans shift points that the sport button affects by default? It'd be nice to be able to customize those features.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS

I don't. So far I've got around 5 local early adopters and I want to get that up to at least 10 so I can get a comfort level that any bugs are worked out, etc, before we start shipping across the country. So if anyone knows anyone with an N18 interested in tuning in the socal area (close to 93065) drop me an email.
Really, we can't get any more test mules????
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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I tried to help by offering to take the 6 hour drive but that isn't exactly helpful for R&D.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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Got my JB+ on Sat.

Been destroying my mpg since then haha
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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Im in contact with Terry and may be beta testing with my 11 auto S. I will update u all with info as I get it. Todd
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:55 PM
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im in contact with terry and may be beta testing with my 11 auto s. I will update u all with info as i get it. Todd
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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I tried to help by offering to take the 6 hour drive but that isn't exactly helpful for R&D.
oak-town to simi valley is maybe 5 hrs...andonce you have the jb+ installed, i'm guessing maybe 4hrs back. =D
 
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 10:18 PM
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oak-town to simi valley is maybe 5 hrs...andonce you have the jb+ installed, i'm guessing maybe 4hrs back. =D
I was being conservative
 
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