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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Cooper
I'd love to see quicker blips somehow. Even in sport mode I feel like it doesn't zing up the revs quick enough when I try to downshift quickly.
Sport mode isn't going to affect how fast the revs climb when downshifting. If I'm understanding you correctly the only thing that will affect this is a lightened flywheel = less rotating mass.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 01:03 PM
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Yes a lightened flywheel will will spin up the engine faster. Modern cars, especially BMW program throttle delay which can be altered via tune.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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FWIW, I put a lighter flywheel on my 2003 MCS and it kind of ruined the driveability. One mod I really regretted.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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Bought the can tool. Was able to go into the settings etc. hold the button on selection and flights blink and it goes back to non programming mode. Mone of the settings save though. Now i cant even get back into programming mode. :-/
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 11:35 AM
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Program the dash first, then the ecu...then everything else you want.. It's easy, take your time.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Well i cant even get back into programming mode. Ive unplugged. Shut car down. Plugged back in ignition on hold button and nothing happens.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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Nevermined. Got back in. Thanks
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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yeah the settings simply won't save, gauges remain oem even though when i go into programming mode everything is properly set.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bmx045
yeah the settings simply won't save, gauges remain oem even though when i go into programming mode everything is properly set.
just wanted to make sure - you realize that with the default settings, the gauges don't get hijacked until you're running over 5lbs of boost, right?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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terry helped me out promptly via email, thankfully. for anyone who doesn't know, this can device needs to remain connected via obd port in order to work while driving.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jomama
just wanted to make sure - you realize that with the default settings, the gauges don't get hijacked until you're running over 5lbs of boost, right?
yes I am aware, though thought the device is a set-it and forget it type thing, that was the issue.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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I just read something interesting for you N18 owners.

I quote "Group4 Autosports. We have partnered with PAW motorsports and are pretty much the only kids on the block tuning n18 motors reliably. Unfortunately, Mini got really crafty with the ECU security which makes it really difficult to tune. We have a few other shops we work with, but so far most people have just mailed us their ECU's. We also suggest you add an Intercooler to help keep your motor cool with the added power, and we have a set of high power spark plugs that come along with the kit. If you are interested drop me a line, and We can give you a good price on the kit! We have seen between 25- 30whp and 20-30 trq picked up on the N18 motors just with the tune, spark plugs, and Intercooler! And as much as 40 lbs feet of trq with other mods! The automatic is an added twist but Lenny has worked out the bugs there too!"

Anyone try them?

http://www.group4autosports.com/
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Nice, finally got the auto stuff worked out.

Another option for the N18's

WINNING
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 03:38 PM
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More info,

" WJ's MINI N14 R56 is sitting at 262 at the wheels now, but it took quite bit of work to get it there. We are actually just finishing up a 2013 N18 JCW Countryman and were very pleased to squeeze 232whp/233trq with just a down pipe, exhaust, intercooler, and spark plugs. We are currently testing our new turbo upgrade and combined with the DOS intake are getting dangerously close to 250whp without major engine work! Most companies have bowed out of tuning the turbo Minis because of how complicated the ECU's are to get right. Lenny is our tuner and he also wrote the tunes for RennTech and Buckhead Imports!"
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Braminator
Lenny is our tuner and he also wrote the tunes for RennTech and Buckhead Imports!"
so is lenny no longer with renntech? or was he never a part of renntech, and just wrote their tunes?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bmx045
Bought the can tool. Was able to go into the settings etc. hold the button on selection and flights blink and it goes back to non programming mode. Mone of the settings save though. Now i cant even get back into programming mode. :-/
Internet forums are an awful place to try to get technical support. If you or anyone else ever needs any assistance with anything be sure to email us.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NewCooperFanatic
Nice, finally got the auto stuff worked out.

Another option for the N18's

WINNING
Lenny had the automatic issue worked out a year ago. Mine has never had a problem.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pidge1114

So they're advertising the same gains as Terry's piggyback, except I need to risk yanking my ECU and sending it to be bench tuned.

Nah.
My car tuned by Lenny at Renntech gained 27hp/51tq on one run and 22hp/57tq on a second run. Not exactly the same gains right? Expect more than they advertised and expect no issues if Lenny works on it. And the car was stock at the time.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DKIKK77
My car tuned by Lenny at Renntech gained 27hp/51tq on one run and 22hp/57tq on a second run. Not exactly the same gains right? Expect more than they advertised and expect no issues if Lenny works on it. And the car was stock at the time.
all good and well if you live on the same side of florida as lenny. hujan tried getting hg motorsports to work on providing lenny a platform from which to remote tune. that never materialized, so us west coasters were back to square one, until bms stepped in recently. there's been so good progress made already, and terry's continuing work on bigger/better tunes.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pidge1114

Terry is estimating 25hp and 40tq on his. I can sacrifice a couple horses and torque for convenience...and costs less.
"Estimating". Maybe one of the testers should drive to a dyno.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:11 PM
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Night and day difference between my stock R60 and DKIKK77's with his tune! I rode in his car and the butt dyno was way up. I was a little disappointed to drive mine back home😢. When I get some funds put together Lenny's tune is a serious option for me.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pidge1114

That's fine, I'll take the increased gains, 300 extra dollars and flexibility of removing the tune at any time I wish rather than risking anything with removing and sending my ECU and be without a car in the process.

Plus Terry has Stage 1 already in the works and allows upgrade pricing. I and a considerable amount of members here would much rather take that approach.
Exactly what you said, pricing and removing the tune with 20 seconds or less.
 
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